Ok the island was set up as a quarintine zone for sick people. The monster on the island is a mechcanical security system used to retrieve patinets that excape. The isalnd has a helocagenic affect, on the occupants, explaining how the doctor saw his father. The underground doctor is there to monitor the island and its patients, he innoculates himself daily to keep himself form the islands effects. The numbers are a certain combonation to escape the island, which a few people have, explaining the insane man that hurley meet who repeated the numbers. I still have many holes that I need to work on filling, such as why locke could walk again after the plane crash. I think that the "island" wants kids so badly, is because they have something physiology, that adults dotn have, that could make an antidote

The more episodes of Lost that I watch, the more questions that are created. What happened to Jack's wife? The Others obviously do exist, who are they?

Hurley's buddy in the insane tank was the part of Dharma Swan before Kelvin.

I like your theory Andrew...

The others are a group of people on the other side of the island.

I beleive your theory also to be correct gary...

Oh, and the purgatory theory has been OFICIALY SHOT DOWN!!!

how has it been shot down ?

The are all starting to degrade on a psychological level. Its like a govenment test, a big head game.

I think that they are on the island because they all need to redeem themselves because of things done in the past.

Have you ever seen the truman show? Well what if this show follows that same concept? they all might be here for the pure purpose of entertainment for the "outside world" just a thought.

In my opinion, these island is a huge-investigation facility. In one hand you got a numbers that deserves lucky if you use, but a certain bad-luck probability. The thing is, if you use this numbers to investigate, you´ll have more better chance to achieve what you are searching. This whole place is financied for several goals, that you can rewiew in the Hanso foundation web. My theory is that eventually known the risk of use the numbers and for this used a remote place like the island. I think There are several hacks for several investigations, and the others or maybe "another" search mind power in children. Is much more easier for children have precognition because they doesnt develope entirely a rational mind.
Other item, i dont think the other like a savage people. If they were it could be much easier to kill that kidnapped the survivors. Sorry my ortography faults, im not english or american

i think its a kind of spiritual island where sins are forgiven and dreams come true, not due to government intervention (although possible alien intervention)

bear with me

locke wants to walk, he walks. he lives his dream of being in the jungle, hunting, camping etc.
kate and sawyer get the chance to escape the real world.
michael and his kid get to spend all the time they want together.
hurley gets to lose weight, well, maybe not. what ya all think to that!!
they all get to think and reflect as well

after watching the last episode and the appearance of a horse (which you never see on islands) i'm starting to think that the magnetic irregularities and all the experiments going on have made the island a place where your subconscious manifests itself in physical form, (something like solaris with george clooney) but it doesnt happen all the time.
This would explain how polar bears exist in the island (walt's comic book) and the horse that kate sees, the appearance of a past distress and the connection to the natural horse she saw when she was in the car with the cop (horses in farm, areas are not uncommon)...
what do you think?

The island is run by scientists who study human behavior. They are putting situtaions to see what the people will do. Example right Eko and Locke watch the video again, Micheal gets contact from the computer. They are driving the people Mad and the button is to see how long the people will press the button.

MY THEORY ON LOST

This is probably as far wrong as the rest of them but here goes nothing: The jungle is the garden of eden, the whole thing revolves around religion. The numbers are references to religious text. If you have seen s2 e9 the story leads you to the old testaments but it begins with Kate in an apple tree (forbiden fruit?). The jungle (garden) was reached either by a portal from the plane going off course or a state of death (why were they not harmed, they keep saying). The black rock could be Noah's Ark? which would explain why it's in the middle of the Island,this would also explain the 2 polar bears. Desmond is a religious character (I am not religious so lack knowledge of the old testament) and has hand picked all of them to be there, you saw him in Jacks story and I am certain he will turn up again.It could be something to do with the 10 commandments or maybe even the 7 deadly sins, there stories can relate to these.
I know this doesn't explain all but it's food for thought!

I agree with Hector. The island definitely manifests subconcious desires and thoughts as reality. A number of things can be explained that way.

Hurley is obsessed with the numbers that changed his life so the whole Darma institure facility revolves around those numbers.

The horse that made such an impression on Kate when it ran in front of the marshalls car has appeared as reality.

The Polar bear from Walt's comic appeared early on, about the same time when walt had been reading the comic.

When Charlie ran out of drugs and was subconciously craving more, guess what appeared ing the jungle? A whole plane loaded with just what he wanted.

Recently Michael has been searching for his son Walt. Walt appeared to Shannon and now Michael is able to talk to Walt via the computer.

Does this sound plausible. Are any other occurances explained by the characters subconcious desires or fears?

THE SUBCONSCIOUS THEORY

The island was a top secret human test lab, using electo magnetics to alter the subconscious, prolong life and perform eugenics(selective breeding), this was performed on animals first (see www.thehansofoundation.org)

Desmond was the project leader and took injections to be immune from it.

The others were the test subjects who have been affected by the experiments.

The plane crash never happened it was implanted subconsciously by the experiment. So was all their stories, these never happened, they are transmitted memories. As you know all their lifes were quite miserable at the end, this was so they accept the "subconscious tranmissions" easily.This also explains why other characters appear in other peoples stories, imagine your TV set, it is recieving 500 channels but you only watch one, this is what they are recieving, only memories and remember intererence on analogue TV, well that is why they have other people in there, the memories are getting mixed (it is a test lab remember)

The others take the children as kids have very different subconsciousness, so they are not affected (notice we have not had a story from a kid). The others believe that they can use them for a cure for their own condition.

The island security system is to stop the others escaping.

The numbers are the key to the security and eventually Loche and Eko will come to understand this and get them all off the island

I would be interested to hear what you think to this?

"The main and most awful part, and the most impenetrable, of the
incident was the feeling of waiting and counting thirty to press a
button. What was to happen then was uncertain. Either I was to blow up
a planet, had blown one up, or failed to prevent it from being blown
up. For this I felt I was punished by a bearded priest to whom I was
betrayed by colleagues, by being compelled to work the grinder. There
was also, towards the end, the stronger idea that all this appeared to
happen in a robot body."

[L. Ron Hubbard (ed.), Have You Lived Before This Life?, 1958

The survivors of the crash chose to get on the plane in response to an ad released by the scientists running the island. It offering them a chance to get away from their problems. Everyone seems to have a reason to run. The catch is that the memory of their decision to participate in the experiment is erased with the crash of the plane. They allow themselves to be studied as they work through their problems on the island.

ok I've really got it all figured out!!!

they are in the middle of the south pole in some kind of bizarre bermuda triangle type thing. which would explain the weird magnetic fields, and perhaps warm weather.

some government found the island and started doing all sorts of highly confidential experiments with various animals i.e. polar bears. some of the animals have been mutated due to the experiments gone awry.

i think they are all going to prove to be somehow connected in their former, normal lives. i haven't quite figured out the whole numbers thing yet and why the world will end if they are not put in on time. but i think it will all go back for sure to the guy in the mental hospital. i think he knows the answers!

I don't think their ever was a crash! Maybe all these people are still on the plane!

Imagine this, Charlie leaves his seat to run to the toilet to take his drugs, once in their these drugs accidently find their way in to the planes air supply system, giving the remainder of the passengers "mind bending images!".

And as for "The Others", these are the people on the plane not affected by Charlies durgs!

I believe they are all comas and hooked up to psychological simulation machines.
Locke can't really walk and Claire hasn't had her baby.

The "Others" are the scientists monitering all the "survivors".

The others steal the kids bcause they are too young to be in the simulation and Aaron will be taken soon too. This is why Walt was taken.
When ever they hear the whispering in the jungle that is the scientists talking and they slightly wake up from the coma.

If a person completely wakes up from a coma, they will die. When Shannon Saw Walt she was waking up so then Anna Lucia shot and killed her. Since Sayid saw walt I believe he will die next.

The Security System is to regulate the simulation. When ever they are going to "cheat" (try and get of the island with help) the System will come and get rid of the help. This is why the System killed the surviving pilot when he was going to give them a radio and why it shook the ground when Kate was in the tree.

When Shannon saw Walt the first time, (in the tent) I'm pretty sure he said "Don't push the botton". If they don't input the code(4-8-15-16-23-42) into the computer every 108 minutes, the simulation will end and they will all wake up.

IF this whole theory isn't true I have another.
Eithen (remember him?) wasn't an "Other". He was sent there to capture Claire and kill Aaron so the Others wouldn't get theire hands on him(the Others probably capture the kids so they can brainwash or raise them to become an Other). He would need to kill Aaron because he knew they would raise him to be an Other and he woyld do terrible things. (Remember the episode "raised By Another? seperate the worlds and they will be Raised By An Other.)

Oh and the whole Purgatory theory isn't realy because 3 reasons.

1) Purgatory is a neutral place.
2) Claire gave birth...
3) Why would Sayid be there? He's Islaamic...

I am taking no credit for this theory, as it is my cusins!!!

the theory:
Starting off with whats inside that damn hatch... a virus or type of gas. The gas makes you see things, imagine things etc.
The monsater chasing them is the same gas been leaking out, which made Boone see his dead sister, jack see his father and all the other people on the island.
Actually it is only the plane crash survivors and the french woman that are actually real. Who had to kill all of her friends because the gas made them go crazy, and somehow she has manage to become emune to it.
None of them would ever be aloud back into sociaty as they contain the virus themselves. Maybe the island was once a research area for the virus and the plane didnt crash there by accident, but all these people were hand picked and sent to see if the virus remained.

We will let you continue the theory for us, infact please do as we are still filling in holes and perfecting it. We also cannot think how it would end!!!

Thankyou @ Keifer and cusin Joe

Im not up to date with s2 - im english and dont cheat but meh... my theory could syill stand.

Just to add a few things about the numbers...the secret to the show is behind the numbers..all the numbers have to equal to the sequence and to balance the equation...
starting from the last number in the sequence 42...the number of survivors left on one side of the island...when the child is born this makes the number 43- so boone has to die to make the numbers even
23... the number of original survivors on the other side of the island
16..?
8, 15.....flight number
4.. number of survivors left on one side of the island
42+23+16+15+8+4 = 108 : countdown time.
Dunno if this is just a co-incodence or something put in by the producers to get people talking..

I like the purgatory theory. All the people died in the plane crash They've all done some messed up stuff. I think the other are angels that come and take you to heaven. I think Ecko is good too because they tried to take him in the episode where they showed the other side of the island, but they he killed the ppl trying to take him. & they only take the children becuase they're not gogin to heaven. If you die, you go to hell I think, (boone, shannon - incest thing)... Ethan took Claire, cause he's an other...and the ppl who took walt are others too. I dunno i know there's a lot of loose ends like whats jack done wrong. But I think he might be good too, or he just did soemthing we dont know about yet...hugo too...i dunno, think its purgatory 100% tho

i think the fact that many people actually died when the plane crashed sort of pushes away the theory of it being a test or like 'truman show'.

i would like to elaborate on all the magnetism theories. i have only seen up to the first episode of the second season, so im sure there are vital bits of information i am uninformed of. first off, sayid's magnet was off, this was due, obviously to the electromagnetic equipment in the hatch. one would think that such a powerful electromagnet would emmit a fair share of emp, presumable enough to render any electronic devices useless (perhaps airplane navigation equipment). i would also wish to point out the fact that there was a polar bear, polar, as in magnetic polarism and the like. the island is probably near the equator, given the climate. i remember seeing an wpisode of star trek a few years back. the crew found a "pleasure planet" if you will, the planet read your mind and created what you are thinking about. mccoy happened to thinking of dying, guess what happened. at the end of the episode, the planet natives explained that our weak human minds are not ready to posses such power. this supports the theory of the island being a pradise. i personally beleive that the producers are pretty much making this up as they go along, im sure there is some basic idea fro the whole series it is clear that abc is going to milk this baby for all she's worth, and if even a few chosen people know exactly what is going to happen, the truth will surely surface over the course of the series. the show is probably being made up as they go along, keeping us guess, buying dvds, watching paid advertisements. i'm expecting the writers to have soem major resolution at the end of the season, then at the last second of this season drop some giant bombshell that makes nothing make any sense at all. i will, however, be very upset if they end the series by showing a clip of cheech and chong followed by "wait man, this isn't taco bell"

dharma initiative studies pshycological stuff
people a study
number entering with computr is psychy test
maybe island took over

**is it just me or do the 'others' on the boat look remarkable like the people from dharma initiative video?**

I thought the girl on the boat who threw the petrol bomb at the raft looked like Jack`s wife

I'm with the pergatory theory so far.. theres a few things that i havent yet read in earlier posts.

-I think that Locke is a saint, although he doesnt know it, "i guess (the island) found me"- series one when hurley asks why he was travelling in australia. Also suddenly he can walk and he hasnt done anything bad in flashbacks so far. He tested charlie and found his guitar as a reward. theres more on him but... next;

-i agree that the others are angels, but not necesarily as christian faith believes angels to be. I think that they are neither good nor bad but do still move people from the island (pergatory) to their next destination.

-the other guy who infiltrated the tail-end group and killed the guy they put in the pit said that it was ok that he died because he was a 'good person' when anna lucia asked him.

-there are religious clues throughout like the hidden bit of reel that was inside a bible. desmond telling jack he would see him in 'another world' etc...

ok. so discuss that.

halfway through writing this im thinking this is massively wrong so go here for my new favourite theory.. http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12600

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what i dont get is the army knife. why is that there?

also, i heard from a newspaper article that the shows producers have stated that there is absolutely NOTHING supernatural in the shows stories. Don't know what that means for most of the theories going around but i personally don't think that religion is 'super natural' hmmmm. x

perhaps the black rock crashed or departed or something in 1623

i think that there are some freaks in this world and u shud all fuk off and actually get a life

i agree with you ed, but sometimes its good to watch television. but your right xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I read in TV Guide that the producers officailly denied that the island was purgatory.

Ed, if you hate it so much why are you reading these posts in the first place?

I sort of agree with the purgatory. The survivors who survived (who didn't actually survive, they all died too) were the people who didn't deserve to go to either Heavan or Hell. Everyone else who died in the crash went to Heaven or Hell. This would explain Shannon and Boone's deaths, being caught in a kind of incest love sent them to hell. I also think that Walt is the second coming of Christ, and Aaron being the Anti-Christ. They were both placed on the island by God to ensure them safe from the rest of civilisation. Locke and Mr. Ecko are both Saints placed on the island to guide the people up to heaven.

OR!!!!

The people really are on the island. Everything is just a coincidince, the monster is real (no one has ever proved that creepy freaky floating smoke monsters don't exist) and everyone is actually deprived of everything they need.

It is a sort of purgatorial metaphor (life) in which the folks must come to terms with just living.
Until they (we) stop trying the island will constantly control their (our) fates. When they (we) relax and start living, then peace will come to them (us). The reward is not heaven or hell but much better. Dharma. What does this all mean?

Has anyone noticed that almost everyone that has had a back story has killed someone? Just a thought

I think the island is part of the Marshal islands in the south pacific where the U.S. did nuclear bomb testing after WWII. (this explains the army bunker, the old US amry knife, the sickness desmond speaks of is radiation poisoning) and some kind of alien civilization is using the island for testing, and the 'others' are alien abducties that are sort of being forced to help out their alien experimenters. and the aliens have been following the people throughout there lives and guided them to the island

in yesterdays episode when the shadowy monster thing is in front of eko you can see the inside of it. soo since we had tapped it and are lost crazy we paused that part and looked in it for clues. its very very hard to see but you can see images from ekos past such as his brother in his arms dieing and a woman from his village. its kinda like this thing feeds off of peoples pasts...very weird!!

Even J.J. Abrams, the co-creator of Lost, thinks the Purgatory idea is cool, but he offically denies it in this article http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Entertainment/story?id=732221&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

I think Locke can walk simply because the impact of the plane crash jump started his nerve endings or whatever, he wouldn't have been able to participate much otherwise.

As for the big picture...I think the writers are just joining up the dots as they go along, they don't know where it will end up...or if they do it's just a general idea and they occasionally change their minds as the episodes unfold

I think some of you guys need a damn reality check.
First of all, as Locke might say, you need to take a leap of faith. Faith that the writers of this show know what they're doing, are constructing an immaculate and ellaborate storyline, that they are well read and highly intelligent.
Aliens is one of the stupidest suggestions I've ever heard. There are enough aliens on TV, and even more aliens coming in the future. TV needs no more damn aliens. Also, I think we can safely rule out the "implated memory" ideas and the timewarp ideas and the comatosed and dead ideas, mainly because the writers have actually said that none of these theories are true, more importantly because these ideas have been done before!! I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I've faith enough to say that they arent going to revamp an idea that was already done in Donnie Darko or Total Recall or Jacobs Ladder or even The Matrix, because they've got a bit more dignity that that. The series is highly original and hopefully its conclusion and secrets will be just as original.
I think there are only a few things we can safely say that are going on.
Serendipidy/synchronicity/dharma: Dharma may translate directly to "the way things are", however it is also to a degree synonimous with the idea of fate or destiny. In movies like "Donnie Darko" fate or Dharma is a path the hero has to follow to make things right, and along the way is presented with signs that he is going the right way. In lost its more like they are seized by fate (or their fate is somehow manipulated) and the signs act as clues to illustrate this (mostly reoccuring numbers).
2. Then we have this beast made up of black smoke that sounds semi mechanical and reflects images from the obsevers mind back at them. Nano-technology has already been suggested. Another possibility is that the creature is made up of sub atomic particles - the fundamental building blocks of the universe. As such, it can take on any shape it wants, can exist in all times and understands everything based on the fact that it is part of everything. It can read minds, be anywhere at once, travel in time, god knows. It may be a by product of an experiment - or it may be the experiment (scientinsts trying to create a rudimentary God) If this were the case - I'd bet a million dollars to a toenail clipping that the code they have to enter in the computer is part of a method of detaining the beast in its prison - the island. Perhaps the magnetic field under the bunker has something to do with this as well.
Reflecting on this, if the beast is this all powerful entity, maybe its been trying to escape the island all this time, drawing in victims from across the world to serve its needs. Some of these victims may have become the "Others", the infection being nothing more than the beasts influence. Moving on further, perhaps to get released from the island it needs to command the powers of certain children, as just about everyone the Others have abducted seems to have some sort of ability to manipulate the world - or its at least been suggested as such (clair's baby remains ambiguous).
Anyway, just an idea. While you can question my credibility (and I welcome you to of course), lost is certainly not a series about a heroin induced hallucination on a plane. For God's sake, first of all heroin is not a hallucinogen, second of all, even if it were, you simply cannot get high from that amount of heoroin passing through a damn airoplane ventilation system.

lighten up dude!

i thik that maybe they just crashed there and all the events that happened are a coincedence. yeah they were going the rong way and yeah the island has a magnetic pull thts why no one can find it cuz when they do they cant get off it. i think that the dharma initiative just happened to be on the island and the animals broke out and the place went out of business as for the others maybe they are just drugged up islanders. the hatch wel thats self explanetery the monster is actually real and its jst having a bad couple of months so it decided to take its anger out on the pilot and a couple of other people and dump them in trees. and survivors of the plane crash just happened to be involved in each others lives. and the numbers are secretly trying to take over the world with there bad luck. and adam and eve lived on the island for ever and ever but they died in the caves beause the used the numbers and that gave each other bad luck. the french women is on the island because she was sectioned and she is so crazy she has totally lost it with 16 years of being on the island. and the black rock is actually an alien space ship in disguise and the govermant has no part in the island. and the store room place that the tailies found is actually a bomb shelter and it was quarantined from the inside cuz outside is bad maybe LOST is actually real and they havent noticed the camera men following them ....YET..... thats the next story line when they do

4 - number of people from other side of island
8, 15 flight number

16 23 year of ship

43 number on main side of island

You're all right and wrong.
Dharma is real and still in business, but it's letting the island do all it's work for them. Dharma realized the 'attraction' to the island a long time ago, and knew from the Oersted satelite (google this) that the magnetic poles are reversing, as they did thousands of years ago, creating devastation and an eventual ice age (Discovery channel that). The island is protected by it's very own magnetic pole, and the hatches are there to protect the survivors of the cataclysmic event that will evntually happen, and a good mix of people can repopulate the earth. The rest of the stuff, the iron-filament monster, was a way to get funding for the project, no doubt there are more experiments that Locke and the boys will run across, and they are getting a nice dose of BF Skinner's collective concious to keep them busy, and hopefully procreating (Kate has a great bod).
I may have solved the case, but it's the best damn show on, and I'll continue to watch.

nothing is supernatural.I think everything can be explained somehow.the numbers are not a coincedence they have something to do with all of this. the others could be controlling everything, check this out, why is it whenever micheal is in the hatch alone thats when the computer starts talking, then when jack walked in the screen went blank. the others are obviously trying to get micheal out of the way because they dont want to hurt him because he is a good person, hes just looking out for walt. the monster probably does feed on fear because it killed the pilot and not eko, and as for when it went up to locke i think something is going on with him, he hasnt done anything bad in his flashbacks and he can suddenly walk when he gets to the island, whats up with that? as for the new episode on the 18th i was a little disapointed the others were right there and all jack does is try to call a bluff instead of asking questions, come on jack you're smarter than that

I agree with Kelvin. I think that everything on the island can be explained. The only thing that troubles my theory is the freaky black smoke creature. I think that that is the only thing that cannot be explained because it had those pictures of Eko. I think it stopped infront of Eko because he has no soul. I also think that Eko had an idea of what the creature is because he was not scared of it, and no matter how big you are, you get scared of something like that. The numbers all revolve around the island. Hurley's insane friend got them from a transmission he heard, the french woman also got the numbers from a transmission. I beleive they are the same transmission of which are to do with the scientific project that occured on the island. I don't beleive there are stil scientific tests occuring. The numbers on the side of the hatch and the code to be entered i into the computer, they're all to do with the island.

I am in England and have just watched Episode 7 - The other 47 days. I think a lot of what is going on on the Island is related to the psychologist B F Skinner's work. He wrote about creating another society dofferent from mainstream society. I think the experiment is still going on that is why the button must still be pushed.
I agree with this theory that the island creates what you think about. That is surely a 'supernatural idea?

Also see 'Lord of the Flies'

i live in scotland an have only seen the first season i also downloaded the first episode of season 2 cheeky i no but i couldnt wait for it to start again over here. what i dont get is jack sed its 3 hours to light before he went down the hatch when are the others going to come, do they come? u would think they would have come by now.i have seen clips from the abc website from season 2 and wen they meet the others wen the are searchin for micheal they way the speak to each other is as if they havnt met so im guessin the others dnt come.

This is my first time posting, though I have been reading the posts here for months.
I was thinking it would be a good idea to have a post that lists all the "theories" that the writers have officially discredited. If everyone likes this idea, can we have it be made a sticky?
The following are ones I got from Wikepedia, but I looked at their sources and they seem valid. I included the sources they listed

* The survivors are dead and/or in Purgatory.
* The survivors are in a time warp.
* Spaceships or aliens influence the events on the island.
* Everything seen is a fictional reality taking place in one or more of the survivors' minds.
You probably already know most of these. But I have seen some people refering to some of these theories still and wasn't sure if everyone knew what the writers have been saying.

I reckon they all died in a plane crash or are in a coma. And scientists have taken their bodies and are doing experiments on them. Maybe they are all hooked up
to computers and seeing if they can interact with each other through a dream situation created by the pcs.

That sounds like a good theory, however if that were so then it would be a fictional reality and the shows creators have official discredited that. Nice try though.

my theory is that eko and locke knew the plane would crash, like in exodus part 2, the last episode of season 1, locke was looking at Jack as if he was feeling sorry for him and eko is also very simular to locke with his guiding and knowledge of the island which is quite weird.And also i think that Kelvin may have been Ethan!i know it sounds crazy but he cud have been with rosseau the french women trying to get claires baby for her, coz we still dont know wat happened to Claire when she was kidnapped by ethan, but in the last episode, there was that little flashback with the french women and claire and claire scratched her so AHA! it may be bullshit but oh well i tryed!

hey its not 03:47 in my great country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok guys.. here goes.. me n my pal have been reasearchin way to much into this.. quite sadly.
im not givin ya theories.. just evidence.. its all something to do with walt disney.. maybe epcot. http://www.waltopia.com/film.html the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow ... maybe lost is a experimental community gone wrong... check out this film of walt disney just before he died.. it has a real resembelance to the dahrma vid.. and also ive noticed a few fake web sites that must have been made by the producers.. now check this lonk out.. http://www.thehansofoundation.org/mission.html the proof is wen you click on the terms and conditions at the bottom.. just see where it takes ya..also the band geronimo jackson.. http://www.geronimo-jackson.com/ then look at there first album name at look it up.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke another interestin site... i have loads more stuff but gotta go x x

I FIGURED IT OUT

I've read everyone's theories thus far, and many of them seem to be somewhat on track, but I think I've figured out what is going on. We need to think outside the box here......The survivors of the crash are in actuality, the first human beings to inhabit Mars. Hear me out now. The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. The phone number/zip code of the new Maritan city called Marstopia. Locke can walk b/c there is actually no gravity, no one realizes it yet though. The flashbacks are all the evil that occured when our survivors lived on the Moon. Walt sees a polar bear because the Polar Bear is the national animal of Marstopia. The Dharma Initiative video is a news broadcast from the Moon. The plane itself was actually a spaceship that got the characters to Marstopia. The hatch is Marstopia's version of the White House, after all, the settlers of the New World aren't exactly rich, as all government resources are obviously still focused in the development of the Moon. And finally, the Others....everyone is looking too much into the "Others." There's really a simple explanation, the Others are employees of Marstopia's newest resort, Marizpan Beach....and they kidnap all the children for cheap labor.

THE ANSWER

A bunch of people crashed on a remote island.
Some live and some have died or will die.
One of them is a doctor.
There is something about numbers that make people rich or sometimes not.
Anna Lucia is a bee-otch.
The monster is made of black smoke.
Mr Ekko could kick my ass.
I love the show and am angry I can't figure it out yet.
The entire show is a mass conspiracy to resurrect 'Pary of Five'.
The Fonz will jump the shark with the Dharma logo.
Charlie will steel the One Ring from Frodo and return it to Sean Astin, who will then be assasinated by Jack Bauer.

To b honest almost everyone on this shite toks utter shite u dnt have a clue stop wasting peoples time and get a grip

It's a Zoo!

I think that maybe the producers will try and annoy everyone by making it a dream and at the end of the last episode one of the characters will wake up on an areoplane which is about to crash

Jack's Tattoo!

Anyone ever notice Jack's tattoo on his shoulder of the number 5? You think it's got to do with Party of Five? Kind of like how the Lord of the Rings guys got their tattoos as memorobelia of the movies?Just wondering.

I too once thought it was purgatory then I keep changing my mind after reading other posts. But I've wondered about one that mentioned talking to Walt through the computer. I have had dreams that seem real as though I've gotten messages through my computer from friends or what not. Could it be possible that there are parallel layers of existence one in which the others exist vs the others etc. Keep in mind I've only got finished watching season 1 so most of what I say is mind blabber. But I remember watching Forbidden Planet too and believed that to be similar to what was going on the island,, particularly with Walt. (Monsters of Id concept).

Then I was intrigued about someone posting on another site about Watership Down by Richard Adsam (is that the last name?) Anyway, it just seems pretty cool the main character of that book is known Fiver and Jack has the 5 tattoo. And Sawyer was reading a copy of it.
Then someone else on his site mentioned similiarities to Ambrose Bierce's Occurence on Owl Creek Bridge.... So many intriguing theories I wish I thought of them first....

What if they're all dead already? What if it's an experiment? What if its collective unconscious? What if they're all entwined?

To be more personal, why I'm destined to be on the island of LOST:
1. Locke's mom = Annabeth is similar to my real name (Anna-Liza)
2. Hurley and my history (for reasons I won't say)
3. An experience that might be considered a "tabula rasa" = difficult to explain if you haven't been through it but basically I felt after waking up (like imagine the opening scenes with close up on a character's eye) felt like my brain was "erased" and my personhood reimplanted
into my physical body with vague memories of my past
(I have yet to have a spiritual awakening much like Locke though perhaps I have forgotten what it was being that I've experienced #3)

lisa! u won the lottery!

This show better have a damn good ending for all this hype created

The whole religous pugatory thing wouldn't be true. The developers wouldn't dream of doing that becasue it has a religious oppion, which many people may find offensive. :)

The theory I belive is right, is the whole coma thing. All of the characters are in a deep sleep. For, some reason they arn't aloud out of the sleep. The mechanical monster thing always appears when the characters are fearing for their lives. We all know that we almost always wake from a bad dream when we are frightend. The monster sprays them with drugs, which keeps them asleep.The numbers hurley are talking about may be some sort of "code" to the whole thing. Hehe, this theory may be completly outta whack because I haven't seen any of the season 2 episodes yet :P

How about this: They all crashed on Fantasy Island long after Mr. Roarke and Tattoo abandoned the island. They left after realizing that their endless extravagant expenditures put Fantasy Island Inc. into receivership. Without Tattoo and the help of the over worked and under paid, native Fantasy Island staff, guests are left to experience random disturbing fantasies that sometimes help them to find closure with their personal messed up issues. More often than not, the fantasies just get them killed in some ironic way. I expect to see the mummified body of Tattoo in one of the caves in later episodes. I predict that they will discover the horrible fact that Mr. Roarke murdered the poor SOB because the little guy was always sooo annoying. I mean, with his, “Yes both” this, and his, “Ok both” that, and his, “Both, do I have to wear the dreth tonight?” Who could blame Ricardo --he’s Khan for ch*st sake!

I don't know if this is a good theory or not (It may have been mentioned before).
Maybe.. maybe it's a whole "Adam and Eve" theory, you know with all the races and all the different animals that showed up (aka The Black Horse and The Pig and The Polar Bear). The baby may be the new Jesus or something great, that Has the Possibility of being changed by the enviornment he lives in (ie Remember when the Pychic sent them on that trip, knowing that the plane would crash and he was specific about where/who should raise the baby?) Recently the whole deal with Charlie reinforced my theory a little (about the baptism). Faith and Destiny are big Ideas about this program. Locke and Echo are the key. We'll see what happens...

i think the monster is controlled by the computer in the hatch and the numbers are a code that secure the monster won't escape. and the others are dharma scientist who kidnappes children for there own experiments.and i think eventually they eventually find out how to escape of the damn island but two of them must stay behind to push the button or else the world be in great danger. i think that jack and locke stay behindd. but the question is where the .... is desmond?!

i think he is kidnapped by the others

i read this book called the green planet or something and it was about people taken to another world because earth died of something maybe thats what happend to them and the others are just people who came before them

I agree with the whole religious theory. Basically when Jesus was around the whole world was a mess and most people were sinners. Jesus died to save people from their sins so that they would go to heaven. The purpose of the bible is to teach people to live in harmony and not be sinners. Almost everybody on the island has committed some sort of sin in their past. One of the episodes is called Exodus and in the Old Testament this is the story of Moses getting LOST in the desert. Claire's baby is called Aaron who was the brother of Moses. Locke keeps talking about having faith and "being tested". Mr Eko has become a priest and found a book in a place that he said was similar to a place in the Old Testament where the people found a book of law that restored harmony amongst the people. The word Dharma comes from Indian Religions and can mean many things from the ways things are to law and religion. One of the episodes is called Deus.... which means God in latin. I think the others only take good people and leave the bad people to thrash it out on the island and learn the way to live. I think the black smoke is something to do with people facing their own fears and sins which is what is taught in the bible.

i think that the darma place were studying electric magnetic stuff and makes up exeriments them tests chemicals or drugs on animals and one day they made a dinosaur type thing and it escaped freeing the rest of the(altered animals e.g poler bear)animals darma knew that the island was now unsafe so quarintened(sorry about spelling)it off ,the numbers are a type of control code to keep the animals under control and keeping them on the island.they knew this was not enough so they made a mecanical security bot of some sort to keep the animals away from both entrances some scientists went mad and ran for it some stayed died of old age but new people cam along ever so often to press the button hence desmin

sorry for being so long but thats my view:)

i posted the one above and i hav something to add.

some scientists disagreed with the use of animals for test subjects so went out and when people came to shore they took the young to try and sheild them from the scientists and one day lead a rebelion (and thats why the others know there way around the island they have worked there for years)

desmind i believe has fixed his boat and sailed away he has a boat because he was in that race around the world

I think the whole "lost" story is something to do with the church of scientology (COS). I knew from watching an episode of south park that the COS is really into experiments regarding human emotions so I did a little research on Wikipedia and found this page; copy this link into your browser and have a good read of this page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera_in_Scientology_doctrine#Invader_Forces

You really need to read this link or the rest of this won't make sense.

There are some amazing coincidences between what's going on in "lost" and some of the COS' beliefs that are described in the link, in particular

1) The spaceship that looks like a plane! I don't know the exact type of plane that is used in lost, but it looks pretty similar to the one in the picture!
2) Read the part about Invader Forces about half way down. It talks of a battle between the 5th invader force and some others who were already there. Jack has a big 5 tatooed on his arm, does this signify that he is part of the 5th invader force? After all they are the 5th party to land on the island that we know about: 1- The Black Rock, 2- The French Research ship, 3- Desmond, the guy from the bunker and 4- The yellow plane loaded with drugs.
3)Under the heading "Key Incidents" it talks about people being brainwashed by having implants known as incidents (remember Desmond - "There has been an incident")
4) The next heading is "Aircraft Door Goals" and talks about goals being implanted in the fuselage by way of an explosion!
5) "Bear goals" is the next heading talking about using live bears - polar bears keep popping up on the island!
6) Under the heading "Marcab Confederacy" it talks of them coming from a planet 108 light years from earth. 108, the number on the timer in the bunker!

Apart from that, some anonymous guy made a post on this forum on Dec 10th 2005 (scroll up and read it). This is an extract from a book written by the guy who founded scientology (L Ron Hubbard) and talks of a guy counting down to push a button and not knowing what the consequences of either pushing or not pushing the button will be. This is exactly what is going on in the bunker in lost!

I'm not saying I have all the answers, I'm not even sure exactly what scientology has to do with lost, I just think that these things are more than a coincidence.

hi there i think Lost is part chance part fate on why the plane crashed it is slightly logical and at the same time baffling.The plane crashed for a reason to have everyone question their lives but the other on the island have heard of a prophacy in which one day a boy will come who will be sum wort of god figure (hence why they steal all the children that are on the island and y they took walt instead of the baby)Walt can make things happen if u havent noticed the rain stopping when he wants his dad to find his dog the bird at the airport the polar bear on the island.Locke can walk because maybe the force of him hitting the ground from the plane crash "clicked sumthing back into place"we dont know why he couldnt walk it could have been a temporary thing his legs did give way when boone died.The time on the island has given everyone time to reflect on their past lives and has made them think twice about how they lived hence halucinations.Claire keeping the baby charlie coming off drugs Shannon looking after the dog hurley giving everyone food...And why is the purgatory theory "shot down"?Those who have made up for the bad things they did in the past life have been let into heaven Boone Shannon and the others who dies in the crash led good lives.It could be a mixture of fantasy and real life terms but i think its sumthing spiritual anyway

http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7712
this site has a gd explanation of whats goin on

maybe you have already realized this...i haven't read all of the posts yet, but for stev's comment made on dec. 22 about the numbers,
16=the number of years that rousseau has been on the island

I think the plane never crashed, all the people were placed in their respective spots after the crash. This is a govt. experiment to see how people react under stress with no information as to their situation. The reason why the children are snatched up is because they make lousy test subjects. Everything is designed for max. freak out, to push everyone to the limits. If the creators of the show interject any reality to the situation the aircraft would have nose dived into the ground killing everyone after the tail was ripped off.

i think that the most interesting element in lost is the monster first we think it is some kind of beast, but we hear mechanical sounds coming from it, then we see black smoke so we think wait maybe it isnt a monster, we are also told it is a security system by rousseau, which makes us think it could be a sort of walking killer robot, but then we see it right infront of eko and we think no way its something way beyond what we first suspected, if you ask me then there must be some serious shit goin down on the island if a security system that appears to be nothing but black smoke was created to guard it.

The letters in the name "Ethan Rom" can be rearranged to spell "other man."
In Watership Down, the story is about two tribes of rabbits battling each other. The character, Fiver, has the gift of intuition about future events.
Pictures of wariors for God or the devil are often drawn with a scar across one eye like the one on Locke's eye.

well done todd(this is not sarcastic)

well with the numbers:
4:the number of tail end survivers when they reach the others(jack,etc)
8,15:flight number
16:years rosseau has been on island
23:original number survivers of tail end survivers AND ana lucias seat number is 23 sumit
42:jacks seat number on plane.
108:all numbers added together

hello everyone my name is andy. i am a geographer at the university of nottingham. i have been analysing the wave crests and comparing them with the mysterious numbers featured in lost. by trial and error i have found an interesting corralation. the number of waves per second coming onto the beach directly relates to the number of times kate looks at jack lovingly per episode. i have also discovered that the producers have set this 24 degrees north and 200 degrees east of jamacia. i have plotted the course of the aircraft and incoorporated the time of radio failure. i intend to re-construct the crash using models to further this investigation.

yours,

proffessor charlotte farmer, nottingham university

i dont know if anyone picked up on it but in episode 11 of the second series when jack refuses to leave when he is told by the bearded guy who appers to be the leader of the others and the bearded guy asks a fellow other bring someone out, that someone of course is kate but if you listen to his exaxt words he says "Bring her out alex" and if you remember alex is name of rousseau's child who was taken, although when kate is brought out you never see the face of the person who is referred to as alex.

I used to think that locke was the hardest mother on the island but know i think that eko is, because not only did he kill some of the others in the episode "the other 48 days" he also heard the monster in the jungle but did he run no he had it a staring contest and he won, he's one fearless bastard.

HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT LOST IS ABOUT.

if you think about it what is the producers of the show acheiving. They are managing to perform on the viewing public the same thing that we see them doing to their characters in the show. They are playing a ultimate psychological game with our minds whilst we watch the show and think it is the characters that are experiencing the confusion.

The creators of the show are putting in all these different elements.like the duality of man ,religious conotations,purgatory,subconcious belief, etc.
And all the time adding more and more complex storylines to keep us on the hook.

During this time they are making wads and wads of cash in syndication rights and dvd sales. And as long as they can keep us interested they will keep doing so. But when this interest runs out or they decide to call it a day they will give us an ending that will not satisfy us. Because they cant meet the expectations that they and we have built up in our minds.

They are playing the Long Con just like Sawyer, and I am eating it up like the rest of you.

Just hope they can keep it up for a good bit longer.

I THINK SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE ON GLUE!

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PLEASE READ!!!!!!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!

Hi. Just few things for you to all think about. ive done a bit of research into things in los as well as just coincedently spoted reacurring things in the episodes. listen up:

BLACK AND WHITE:

the 2 colours usually represent good and evil. the 2 colours have been featured a number of times, usual to do with locke;

-in "pilot", Locke and Walt are playing backgammon, locke says to walt, "2 colours that you can choose, one is light, one is dark". maybe saying you choose your own personality/future

-when jack finds the 2 corpses "adam and eve", one is holding a black stone, one is holding a white stone.

-in "house of the rising sun" claire has a dream where locke has one white eye, one black eye.

-sawyer's new glasses have one half white frame, one half black

-polar bears are white, the horse kate sees is black.

-when jack and anna lucia are facing each other in collision, jack is wearing white, anna lucia is wearing black.

-The black-and-white logo of The Dharma Initiative appears on various surfaces in the hatch compound; the same symbol appears on the labels of all the food in a storage room, and of a shark that circles Michael and Sawyer.

maybe all coincedence but someting to think about. the last point leads me onto my next thought, the number sequence:

4- no. of survivors from tail end of plane
8 & 15- flight number

16- number of years rosseau has been on island
23- anna lucia's seat numbe & number of original survirors from tail end of plane
OR
16/23- year on the ship

42- Number of survivors from front end of plane

check this: (research)

The sum of these six numbers, 108, has also become significant in connection to the Dharma Initiative. 108 is a sacred number in taoist philosophy. this is important because the Dharma Initiative's symbol resembles the taoist one. ths number appears on a mural inside the Initiative's Station Three, and the code must be entered into the computer every 108 minutes. these numbers also frequently appear individually throughout the lives of the survivors, both before and after the crash.

i belive that the mental man that hurly gets the numbers from, has a big part in the unfolding of the final story plot. maybe he worked for the dharma initiative in the past.

who knows. cant wait to find out.
i know this isnt really a theory, but its something to think about and would be a very big coincidence if it didnt have anything to do with the plot. and i dont think redemption has anything to do with it. sayid is muslim so that wouldnt make sence.

oh and could ppl stop readin all of these posts, just so they can say "get a life". you obviously dont have one if you read all this for no reason :S sorry this post its so long

thanks for reading, lemme know wat u think pls. cheers

oh i've seen up to 215 but i don't wanna spoil...

but let's say the experimentation thing is getting played at the mo (215) you find out some of claire's history when she was kidnapped...

and i think the electromagnet is to drag people onto the island for whatever reason. i don't think they're all in comas!

I would like to point out some things. 1st off, There is no significance between the numbers that are entered into the computer and that of the people on the island. If everyone remembers, Danielle heard the numbers BEFORE she was on the island, in fact before all of flight 815 came to the island, so how can these numbers play any significance to their lives.

2nd of all, I don't believe Walt will return. Each season of lost is viewed per year, but so far, roughly only a month has passed on the island for each of these seasons. Now, having read an interview about the creators of Lost, they have already written the final episode, but they claim to have enough material to last 7 seasons. 7 seasons = 7 years = 7 months (island time). So in the end, Walt would be what, 18/19, when in fact he is only suppost to be 11/12.

3rd and final, John locke ROCKS!!!

ethan!!!!!!!!!!and claire!!!!!!!!

Personal theory:

The plane never took off. The were gassed, put under, whatever before the flight took off. Now the "crew" is basically being experimented on my Dharma. They are all hook up together, thus why their memories flow in and out of each other. The odd things (smoke monster, horse, walt) show up as stimuli for the minds of the captives. The others are really doctors. When someone "dies", they come out of the experiment.

Im from england and i have a therey that the more you think about the more you think it to be true i think John locke is a dream person or somethink beacause on the phonecall in his past he is called adam and the women is called eve and in the blounds dream i forgot her namebut john has 1 white eye and one black eye and when they find the cave they fing 2 people 1s a women ones a man and locke says are very own adam and eve and kind of laughs and if you think about it locke is the only unlogical thing in the show

it all seems a bit bamuda triangle to me,
because up to now there have been several other
crashed wrecks on the iland one dating to 1623
so there are probably more out there.
the magnetic force on the iland would explain why they would get draged on to the land from sea or sky. i think some people are brought there purposly for experimental reasons , and others accidently stumble into the magnetic field.
the oceanic crash victims are the experimented, and, the others are the experimentors.
i also think it has biblicle nature.

My latest theory (after downloading season 2 episodes from the US)

The Others ARE the Dharma Initiative. They have put up the pretence that they are feral in order to remove suspicion from themselves as being the orchestrator of the island phenomenon. They have taken Walt for the same reason they tried to take Clair’s baby, to protect them from whatever virus/disease that is inflicting the island. I believe that this virus only effects some people, and but not all of them, which is why they were willing to send Clair back to the camp after the baby was born (other than the fact that they have a limited supply of the vaccine). Perhaps children are more susceptible to the virus, or perhaps they wish for someone to continue their work after they die. Perhaps even more a radical view is that the Others first landed on the island on the Black Rock!

Also, that Scottish bloke who was down the hatch, took with him when he left a supply of the vaccine to protect himself.

I also believe that the Scottish dude was running a Dead Man’s Switch, in that if he died from the virus (i.e. the vaccine stopped working) then some sort of Nuclear, Biological or Chemical (NBC) Weapon would be released on the island, destroying the inhabitants and the virus. Also, when Locke failed to put the code in on time, what was the deal with the secondary symbols? I had already predicted that there would be a second countdown as a failsafe, but I could not understand why the symbols looked like hieroglyphs.

I haven’t yet decided how the triangle of the virus/black smoke/magnetic anomaly fits together yet. I am not totally convinced that the magnetic disturbance caused the crash of flight 815 directly, as all aircraft are made of the non-magnetic material Aluminium (Aluminum for my American cousins). I don’t thing the anomaly would cause the equipment to go faulty either, as the radios/transmitters scattered on the island are all functioning correctly, although this does seem at this time to be the most likely cause of the crash as the Pilot said they lost contact with civilisation and that is why they changed course in the first place. Leading on from this, I don’t believe that the Black Rock would have run aground because of the magnetics, as sailing ships of the 17th century were most certainly made entirely of wood! However, those sailing ships would have had compasses for navigation, as is likely that the magnetic anomaly caused them to get lost in the first place.

ships from the 17th century would still have had

tons of metal on board ie cannons, bolts etc,

and a plains engine is entirely made of metal so thats theory is still a float.

plus the others were not going to let clair go back any where, they were going to kill her. watch that episode again kidda and pay attention to what alex ,the french birds daughter says to clair as she saves her from the operation. and the black rock is to old for any of the others to have come to the iland on

Heh folks,have you heard about an interview with one of the shows producers or writers who says Lost is losely based on an obscure Irish novel from the 40's.It too resolves around a box that can blow up the world and a vast undergound bunker.It is called "The Third Policeman" and is glimpsed in season 2 episode "Orientation"

Now I know I have been posting a lot recently, but that is because recently I have been watching season one and two over again in an attempt to interest the girlfriend (which worked). But anyway:

At first, when our intrepid explorers first discovered the Swan outpost, I thought that perhaps these Dharma Initiative outposts were spread throughout the globe. However, having watched the beginning of season 2, I have noticed 2 things

1) On the Orientation film, it states film “3 of 5”, which I presume, there is an orientation film for each of the Dharma sites

2) The bunker that the tail survivors of 815, had a different Dharma symbol on the wall, an Arrow.

There was another couple of things I picked up on. The 1st being when John Locke went down the hatch and he was confronted by the Scottish bloke, Desmond. He said “Are you him”. Now having recently watching episode 15 with Clair’s flashback of her time away from the camp in season 1, the bloke who kidnapped Walt said something along the lines of “how will you explain this to him”. I wonder if both these “hims” are one and the same person.

2nd, did anyone else pick up on the glass eye they found at the Arrow bunker? I’m sure that will make an appearance sooner or later.

i have just seen episode 16 of the second series- maternity leave, and i thought that it was great not only are we told that rousseau's daughter is alive but we also find out something else, when rousseau, kate and claire enter the bunker kate goes for a look around,she finds a locker room and when she looks in one of the lockers she finds a box with a fake beard and some theatrical glue, which must be the beard we see on the pirate looking "other", because we see him talking to ethan earlier in the episode and he is clean shaven, she also finds old worn clothes and the hat that the bearded "other" is wearing the night that walt is taken from their raft, so it seems these others are apparently nothing but scientists that are trying to make out to the survivors that they are nothing but a pirimitive tribe, so what they are doing is protecting there research by posing as an island tribe, not a bad cover story if you ask me.

Furthering my comments on episode 16- maternity leave. i was thinking about what the bearded "other" was saying to ethan about making a list before he came back with claire, and i had a thought could it be when ethan failed to bring back a list of the survirors that they sent out the black smoke security system to study the survivors and make a list of which ones would be suitable for which experiments, think about it the only person that the security system has has killed was the pilot but he was helping the survivors try and send out a signal, now if the scientists want them for experiments then that just wont do, so the security system disposes of the pilot in an attempt to stop them sending out a signal, then in the final episode of series one john gets pulled off into the jungle by the security system could it be that he was next to be taken for participation in one of their experiments, and when the monster comes out of the jungle could it be that when it was staring at eko that it was going to kill him but then it realiised that maybe eko would be a suitable candidate for one of their experiments,think about it the black smoke was right in front of him for at least 15 seconds, i dont think anyone ever thought what was it doing just staring at him. well its just a thought i had, p.s and come on i think that it is clear by now that the security system was put there by the scientists.

i really think ur getting well off the story with the scientists business now. what kind of scientists would do all this, all the time, money etc along with people dieing including ethan (apparently one of the scientists). really dont make sence 2 me.

Here’s another one for all you budding theorists out there: In Season 2 episode 13, just before Sayid shows Hurley that he has enhanced the short-wave radio which enables him to listen to radio signals bouncing off the ionosphere, Hurley is reading what he describes as a manuscript he found in the hatch. He says it’s some sort of mystery screenplay/dialog. I wonder, could this be a script that the Others are following, i.e. Flight 815 was brought to the island on purpose and that the Others are following a script written out, as we have seen there are obviously not the savages with no shoes that they have led us to believe up until episode 15 with Clare’s flashback with Ethan.

They always do this in TV and Film, throw in some innocuous item into the show that you will not think any more about, and then it turns out to play a significant role in the story!

Also, can anyone tell me when season 2 is being shown in the US, as in what night, how often (weekly?)

MAYBE THEY ARE ALL TOYS!!! Perhaps what we are witnessing are kids playing with dolls. Thats why there are no rules. Children often add and change rules to benefit them and put thier playmates at a disadvantage. There's a cop, a doctor, a survivalist, a mom, guns, ships in the middle of the woods, a "monster", a polar bear, good guys and bad guys.
However this would not explain background stories for all the characters and any of the religous themes sprinkled throughout.
It just reminded me of an old Twilight Zone episode where a group was trapped in a doorless room which turned out to be a toybox.

Andy,

Lost is shown in the US weekly on Wednesday nights.

i have been hearing some theories on the security system about how it is infact a mechanical device of some sort and that the black smoke is there simply to camouflage the machine like contraption, which is not a bad theory and that is the theory i would put my money on but when i rewatched the last episode of season 1 when locke is being dragged in to the hole by the security system you see him being dragged into the hole but the black smoke is only revealed fully when it comes up out of the hole after kate has thrown in the dynaminte, or though i thought, but when locke is being dragged along the ground by the security system when i freeze framed it slowly you can clearly see the black smoke wrapped around lockes ankle, you see no sign of a mechanical hand or anything just the black smoke, which i think further justifys the nanobot theory.

I think that they have all been handpicked as the soul survivors of some global destruction where everyone on earth is dead. They are part of the select few that will re-populate the planet but before they are allowed to they must sort their lives out and become true to themselves and be pure. They have to get rid of their grudges and earn forgivness for their sins. Just a thought

I'm going to go slightly off topic here but does anyone else think that Sun's baby daddy could be Charlie?
I know that people are going to attach this onto the immaculate conception idea but hear me out. Charlie took Sun after Claire made it very clear that he had no claims on Aaron. And Charlie's been going down hill since the start of this season, last episode he was in he had a definite Anakin/Darth Vader look in his eyes going on.
This has been on my mind for a couple weeks, had to get it out.

Jane, I don't think that Charlie would freaking rape Sun! The only reason that he took Claire's baby is because he was sleepwalking! Just because he is a junkie doesn't make him a rapist - and remember that it was Sawyer that put him up to it in the first place in order to get the guns. Why he agreed, we don't know yet, but it wasn't lust for rapine...

i agree with you idolbreaker, charlie raping sun thats ridiculous

charlie didnt rape sun at all

My thoughts:

to start Charley did not rape Sun.

I think it is important to note the constant power struggle bettween most of the main characters (jack and locke, sawyer and jack, kate etc) this may not be a theory but it may support/ shoot down some theories.

I noticed something amazing (if you have access to episodes freeze frame this) when Mike and Sawyer are on the broken parts of the raft there is one occasion (sorry i cannot be more exact) when a shark swims by the camera (which is submerged) with it's belly facing the camera. Near the tale of the shark i am damn sure is the Darma insignia. What with the weapons, black smoke security is tight obviously someone does not want the island meddled with.

i am not sure where u people are up to in lost but in episode s02e15 maternity leave the others turn out to be actors, where infact they are more darhma employees. darma is a big issue. this baby place in s02e015 is obviously only temporarily used, or when needed. or maybe it has been abandoned when the hatch was taken over.

The latest episode: lockdown threw up some weird things. i think the counter is a safety measure for the hatch. If it reaches zero the circle of life on the island resets. The supply drop at the end was weird tho. The blue thing projected onto the wall i believe is a map showing all the bunkers.

food for thought. in about 4 days i will watch the next episode and be back on.

Episode 17. Freeze frame the drawing on the blast door - it is a picture of the island and the location of at least 8 darma sites, one being the swan, with a sign saying "I am Here" and seven other places, one appears to be scribbled out, as if it has been shut down, and in the centre is a large question mark, perhaps the origin of the black smoke. There is also plenty of writing around the outside of the octagon drawing, so that should keep us entertained for a while!!!

RE. Locke being able to walk theory -I think the others /Dharma or whoever is behind the whole thing somehow gave Locke the ability to walk as an incentive to do something - remember early on he found something in the jungle - his eyes lit up and we never saw what it was, + later on he says 'I have seen into the eye of the island and it is beautiful' etc etc. Whan him and Boone are out looking for that little plane he starts to loose the ability to walk - I think this was a punishment/warning from the 'island' to stop him from doing something he shouldn't - anyway the reason I think this is because in the beginning of series 2 when he is trying to fix the number inputting computer (after it got shot ) he starts saying ( as if to a higher force) 'it isn't supposed to happen like this + what am I supposed to do now - then gets all upset about the broken computer and starts boo hooing presumably because he knows he will soon loose the ability to walk - i think therfore he must in cahoots with what ever is behind this thing !

A recent theory i read was that the leader of the Others was an Aaron, and when Claire was kidnapped she was convinced to name the baby Aaron because this "leader" Aaron needs a new body - very confusing but i think there could be some truth in it. I'm sure that the pressing of the button in the hatch is fake, a physcological experiment to see how people react when told something like "do this or die".

I think that it's a variation on the purgatory theory. That it will be revealed later that everyone of them tried to commit suicide at some point in their lives (they are all very troubled with guilt issues, etc.) and that is why they were sent to the island instead of "heaven" or "hell".

Guys, check out the book "Prey" by Michael Chrichoton for a very possible answer to the black smoke. It is definitely some mechanical/biological device that will hunt and capture if not destroy if it senses it's prey is fleeing. It's actually a decent book but I'm not trying to sell it here. But check it out! As soon as I saw it I knew what it was and it's very cool.

Who saw last night? I think we all saw the fact that Hurley's eating buddy was a hallucination but to see the gal in the mental ward at the end? What the?

And, after watching Saied threaten the captor with a gun and to have the guy say, I can't tell you anything or HE'LL kill me always makes me laugh. Someone is threatening to kill you but you defend yourself by saying someone else will kill you. Always funny.

Episode 18. If you havent seen it this is a spoiler:

If the hurley thing is how the whole series is gonna end (someones imagination) i think that would be a shit ending.
i'm thinking it is to throw us off course. I think that Hurley deep down wants to believe that it is not real so his imaginary friend tells him what he wants to hear: that he will wake up and it isnt real.
The fact that the shrink used to be a mental case means nothing. just a coincidence thrown in to get us sad acts guessing more.

hi,
i think 2 things,the first one is that Dharma is an acronym (hope is writed right) and the second is that a important character in all the story is the father of sun.
Another thing,the line signs in the dharma logo i ve notice are similar to the I-Ching signs.
http://www.i-ching.it/index.asp?parte=2
sorry is in italian
hope that aren't old news : )

Here is my theory. It's probably completely wrong, but whatever.

1)I think they are getting a chance to start over. Somehow, the people put onto the plane were all put there /on purpose/ by some sort of rehabilitation unit. Most, if not all, of the characters have something that they regret. On the island, they don't know each other. They can choose to confide their pasts in one another, or rebuild a new identity. Think about it, here are the problems of most of the characters:
Michael- Unknown at the moment
Walt- Put there to test Michael, possibly mental powers were completely coincidental.
Charlie- Drug addiction
Claire- Depression from baby
Locke- Possibly a faith-based problem, or his physical condition
Jack- He still feels that it was his fault his father died; depression
Kate- Killed 'the man she loved'; depression
Sawyer- Has yet to get over his mother and father
Sun- This is a sort of test to see how loyal she is to Jin, to make her re-think if she really wanted to leave him.
Jin- He feels guilty about being so controlling, however this is buried within him
Sayid- He has yet to get over his previous 'job'
Shannon&Boone- The love affair
Ana Lucia- Unknown for now
Eko- His childhood has changed him
Hurley- His 'bad luck'
Libby- Unknown

Notice that almost all of these are MENTAL problems, not physical. The Rehabilitation group is adding challanges to help them face their fears and pasts. They need to find how to confront their fears before they will be able to truely "live". Deaths of other "castaways" also change how they react.

The Others are rejects from this 'rehab'.

Locke was possibly being 'dragged' away because he was considered rehabilitated.

2)It is all some sort of really twisted expirament.

Human Response is the topic for an expirament. By having the hatch, they know that human curiousity will lead them there. Desmond is a scientist, which is why he left when they found it. To see if they will push the button. Through that, it will show humans fear of the unknown.

The "monster" never actually harmed anyone. I think that was placed there purposely. It is there to help them confront their fears, which is why those who encounter it (Eko) see their life flashing before their eyes. To make the image clear in there minds.

The polar bear and the horse were there purposely. The islanders KNOW that it is impossible, so the scientists planted them there.

The scientists have secretly been following people for most of their lives, so they know their fears and regrets.

The "Others" were an expirament before them. They wanted to analyze what the differance between being stranded with your own group or being stranded when there is a rival danger on the island.

Those are just my theories. If you have questions that you want me to answer supporting my theories, ask away.

They're all in a group ward at a mental institution, sharing the same fantasy, or maybe playing it out together. Or possibly just one person is working out the whole thing in their head, using all the people in the group ward as characters in their own fantasy.

They've all done something, or had something done to them, that would have them crack up and land in the "Dharma" mental institute.

Dats my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Hello.

I think there are few things I haven't seen considered in any of the theories.

1.What's with Walt's "supernatural" thing? In the flashbacks we see him kill the bird and then his stepdad says that "weird stuff happens around Walt". There must be something with that.Any ideas??

2.Claire, Kate and Rousseau found the fake beard,theatrical glue and costumes in the hatch where Claire was taken earlier. So there must be a reason why "the others" are dressing up like cave people when they are infact "normal".

3.Has someone got still photos of the pictures that are seen in the episode where mr Eko sees the black smoke and the camera runs through the smoke?

4.Jack's wife left him for another man, that another man has to be someone like Sawyer etc. There has to be a connection.

5. Last but not least, when Claire visits the psychic, he has these strong visions and first doesnt want her to give up the baby but changes then his mind.Is he an other or what's with that?

I strongly think that it is somekond of experiment but then again it sounds too easy to be the actual solution.

ps.sorry for the poor grammar, i'm scandinavian.

OK...you are all failing to see something important. First off, do not assume the show is representing reality. The title "Lost" is key evidence. It is not about being physicaly lost, but spiritualy lost. Ever read "Robinson Curusoe"? Just as in the novel, the characters are seeking deliverance(in biblical terms) from the island, i.e., they want to physically get off the island. whats more important here, and as the show depicts, is spirtual deliverance. They are "lost" souls searching for deliverance from their past misdeeds. Just look at all of their back stories. Examine the show...when and how are they trying to get off the island? The show is more focused on their internal battles...conflicts with themselves, eachother, the "others," the "numbers," the "hatch," the "hostage," the "black smoke." The show is about GOD. You must understand some biblical stuff to understand this read on the show. The show is virtually absent of godliness and look at all of the craziness(representational of the real world, i.e. babylon). GOD (Christ) has appeared into the show, however, through the character of Mr. Echo. (he is building a church...remember his back story). The show is about being saved. And I quote mr echo in last weeks episode(4.12.06) "We are all saved in different ways" or something like that...But then again this is a show on network TV, so the promotion of godliness???

After re-watching epsiode 3 of season 2 entitled Orientation, I believe that the man that to which is behind it all is infact Gerald Degrute, the founder of the Dharma Initiative. He is shown many times in the orientation video. One of the Initiatives Studys was on a Eutopian Society, which is possibly why the others are taking "good" people only.

There have been 3 references to "Him":

Desmond to Locke - "Are you Him" - Episode 2, Adrift
Zeke to Ethan - "What am I supposed to tell him" - Episode 15, Maternity Leave
Henry to Sayid - "If I tell you about them, you have no idea what he'll do" - Episode 18, Dave

Perhaps he is even the owner of the glass eye found by the tail-end survivors back in the beginning

I'm sure you all love Lost, so check out this site if you really want spoilers:

http://lostpedia.com

It has a detailed picture of the map Locke saw on the blast door (searchword: blast door)

Enjoy

Jack is dreaming the whole thing.He is still in the plane sleeping.

I think Walt has powers eg:
-When he was reading a book about birds a bird flew and hit the window
-He's reading a comic, it had a polar bear in it and they find polar bears on the island
-His step-dad said he was different
-When he and Locke were throwing daggers at the tree he got it second time because he pictured it in his head
-In Lockes' board game he pictured the numbers of the dice and he got them
-Walt said "what if there are sharks?" when about to go on the raft and later on a shark attacked
-Walt appeared to Shannon 3 times and spoke backwards saying "Don't push the button, button
bad" and "they're coming and they're close"

I think the island is a magical place where fairies rule the island and the others are evil leprechauns that want to kill the fairies.Walt is a wizard and summons sharks and polar bears.The security system is the smoke of Sawyers' cigarettes.Hurleys' weight made the plane crash.
p.s I am hans

i think the island is in the bermuda triangle

hi i rekon it is a hoxe the whole island now micheal is back they should get the guns kick some OTHERS a** seriously i think the island is the like the film the truman show hey im proberly wrong but the OTHERS are fakes trying to look like siko people to scare them when they went to the caves for the first time the skeletons were obviously placed there to scare them

i think the security system progects peoples thoughts and memories in forms of life.
e.g
kate and the horse
walt and the polarbear
jack and his father
shannon and walt
charlie and his drugs
the others only take the good people like walt and the baby aaron

the island is in the bermuda triangle

So I was watching Season 1 again, though I haven't watched much of Season 2, but get this:

I think it's Walt who's responsible for everything going on on the island. When he was reading the spanish comic book, I paused it to read what they characters were saying. It seems a little alien boy (who I think is Walt) says, "you have all infected me, and now you will all suffer." The other two 'superheroes' are saying something along the lines of "what do you plan on doing with us, sir?"

We all know Walt has powers, as we see throughout the series. When he wanted his dad to go find Vincent, he made the rain stop. He was upset with his dad for not taking him on some hike, so the boars hurt him. He killed the bird in his flashback...what do you all think? Maybe Walt's some little alien behind the whole thing, which is why the 'others wanted him.

i agree with hans's theory about the island being a place where magical fairies and evil leprichauns live.I no its a bit far fetched but i still believe in it.He has some good points about sawyer's cigarette' being the security system and hurleys weight making the plane crash.

p.s the island is in the bermuda triangle

I think the island creates illiusional images through the electromagnetic force.Dharma has formatted the industry of manufacturing high power lemalzone produce.The ultramagnetised fusion of 23754 equals the "numbers" in alpha numerical form.This creates the emblem of the hydrolicy in the machinery of the unnumeracal order of the operation.

The Dharma institution appears to be experimenting with an electromagnetic device on the island, which has had a profound effect on Rose, as her sickness has gone away and and Locke, who was able to walk after being paralyzed and whose legs will heal much faster after the door accident in the hatch, just as Rose and Locke, had agreed on. Could this force possibly be the cause of the sickness

I think that everybody will be killed by a that dog because it caught rabies and it likes 2 bite stuff

I think that the plane got shot down because a pigeon got sucked into the engine so the plane blew up and an air hostess got eaten by a massive
squid then a shark at it ate the squid.

p.s.it is in LA but they are stuck on a crazy mans set for a tv show

I think the others are good guys and the survivers are bad guys and they just got mixed up also the last episode of season 2 is a Desmond flashback

Hi im stevo and i think that the nurse is stealing sponges from the suply closet

my theory is that there is a other side of the iland where all the animals r that is where the poler bear came from my theory is that the animal r planimg a attack on jack a all that. the animals sended in that poler bear and say that he was on the tail end of the plane like the others did

i thing that lock is god

Hi im Andy and i think that the nurse is stealing sponges from the suply closet also theres an owl in the kitchen

Forget aliens and stupid electromagnetic fields. I KNOW for a fact that this is not the point of the show--don't focus on the silly, superficial and unreal. Think a little deeper. This TV show is much larger, more important, and not so boring as a stupid tech-geek's play world. It's about philsophy, religion--good and evil. It's ultimately about Plato's theory of the cave. Read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_allegory_of_the_cave

I think the island is a magical place where fairies rule the island and the others are evil leprechauns that want to kill the fairies.Walt is a wizard and summons sharks and polar bears.The security system is the smoke of Sawyers' cigarettes.Hurleys' weight made the plane crash.
p.s I am Andy

Kola seems to be closer in understanding what the producers and writers are trying to tell us. Take a look at Orientalism, especially the work of Edward Said. The battle between "Us" and "Them" (looking at somebody as the "others" a central characteristic of Orientalism). Much of this seems to come down to how the survivors are trying to understand the "others" on the island using their perspective. Anyway, once Orientalism is fully understood things fall a bit more into place.

Here's my theory: Lost is heaven for women. Sawyer and Dr. Jack Shephard are there. Holy hotness.
But PS--I agree that the show has more to do with philosophy than aliens.

its all in the numbers
23... the number of original survivors on the other side of the island
16..how mny yeas the signal's been on a loop
8,15.....flight number
4.. number of survivors left on one side of the island
42+23+16+15+8+4 = 108 : countdown time.

Previously posted by Kola see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_allegory_of_the_cave

this explains a lot of theory, and is interesting although it does not provide an absolute answer?

I see the plane as a means to an end. Self enlightenment being the end.

I hope this makes sense? Just a little something to get another theory going! Let me know your thoughts coz I've got hundreds!

Matt, London, England

what about nanotechnology experiments gone out of control. the magnetic fields are the only way to have some control over the swarm. think "prey" by michael crichton. that black cloud that was running through the jungle smashing trees made me think that. could repair lockes spine.dont know if polar bears or horses are physical replicas manifested by the nanos or are triggered cereberally.

chuck norris is actually controlling the island haha!

Excuse me but i find it very rude that you deleted my previous posts! tut tut tut

xx

i like the nano thechnology idea

This is the most convincing theory I have read yet....I personally haven't found any other that completely explains THE ENTIRE LOST THEORY...CHECK IT OUT....
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ok..i`ve been studying this in depth..plus i`m able to slow down and zoom in on frames so heres what i`ve noticed..
episode 1-as the engine blows up for 2 frames u see a black smoke trail fly down an glance off the top of the engine as it blows.

jack kate an charly are runnin from the monster as they come back after pilot dies, as jack stops the bushes behind him look like eyes in a kind of predator`ish way,

in one episode first season u see the dharma logo on the plane

as the shark swims by as sawyer goes for the broken pontoon it has the dharma logo on its tale.

i`ve also plotted their approximate position based on information from the show- 6 hours into a 15hr flight radio goes out they turn back an fly for 1000miles toward fiji before crashing.this puts them right in the middle of the pacific but who knows how far off course they were from there given the breakup of the plane.but within a 1000miles of that is french polynesia, known for secret nuclear tests by the french since the 50`s which only stopped in the late 80`s i believe(cheers france) russo says she was 3 days out of tahiti on a boat.depens what boat but i reckon they could make it from tahiti to their in three days.

the others? the leader(beardie weirdy)could be the prof. from the dharma video(also beardy)
or they could be ex military, left there for some reason? ethan obviously fights well in a close combat situation(very military style) obviously experienced with weapons grazing sawyers head when he went for his gun, the pistol the leader carries is a luger, a very good pistol from ww2 and later, like i say a reliable proffesional weapon but old, 1960`s latest issue i`d say. i believe there was also a reference to an old military style knife taken from one the others when eko killed one of them.
i also thought if the plane went back via japan(not sure of the flight path?) that it may have crossed whats known as the dragons triangle, an area of magnetic disruption an various annomallies like the bermuda triangle on the opposite side of the earth.

i wasn`t going to propose a theory but as i`m writing this one occured to me(amongst the countless others)this magnetic experiment by dharma went pear shaped, the military were called in to mop up, once done they were abandoned through fear of contamination of the outside world. the security systems were implemented to ensure no one who got on the island got off(monster, smoke, shark an others)dharma purposfully set this up to see what effects the island still has post "incident"

incidentally, dharma is the basis for many indian religeons, like buddhism it teaches the understanding and importence of the inner self and the realisation that the material objects we surround ourselves will not lead to happiness without first understanding yourself.

let me know what u think, cheers.

...ooh sorry an also the numbers,
4- kids on the island taken/survivors from the other side
8-15 the flight number
16-years since the radio transmission(probably when the experiment went pear shaped)
23-the other survivors original number
42-survivors
add them all up = 108

who knows...? i`m thinking they may also be grid references or scripture? i`ll check that out...laters.

I think Andys idea is really good and thanks for confirming that dharma logo on the shark i saw it the other day but thought no way couldnt of been.

Right this may well have been muted between you all but it popped into my head today when talking to a mate about lost. Do any of you remember the episode where jacks key around his neck was being pulled off his chest by a huge magnectic force (when they first entered hatch)? Well i was wondering if this could tie into lock walking/bernice still alive/sun expecting etc.. as magnectic healing is gathering pace all over the world at the moment i.e magnectic bracelets to help with arthritis etc. Still loads of stuff left unsaid but just wondered wot you thought about that.?

My theory on lost is as fragmented as anyone else's, but I'm gonna give it a shot. It seems that everyone is being investigated as individuals. For example, the "others" obviously know they are there. They kidnap them, have lists of their names, play games with their heads, etc. We know that Henry Gale was coming for Locke, what excatly for is still unclear. And with the most recent episode, Locke and Ecko find that montioring station that has hidden cameras in their own hatch. This only varifies the fact that someone is watching what is going on. Someone, I'd like to think the "Dharma" institution, has all these hatches, the orginal being the "Swan" and this new one the "Pearl." I think there are many many 'others.' Some there for different reasons. Perhaps each of the others are trying to create a perfect society. And this new crop of others, crashing from flight 815, will be the one tribe to crack the code and liberate the island. If no one can get sick, and all these miracles happen, then there must be some unusual attempt to create a perfect society. Weeding those who are bad out, and keeping those who are good. Who decides what is good and bad is still unsure. But the point is that evidence points to everything being a giant experiment. The really unusual stuff is still unexplained, and we'll probably have to wait till season five or something to find out. Like that big cloud of black smoke thats a security system, the mircales that happen, and the seemingly omnipotent overseer of the experiment. These are all questions that will linger for a long time. But as we see, Lost is taking a very drastic turn, and I believe we have only seen the beginning. I have however figured out how the entire show will end...something is going to happen, and the plane that they all crashed on will land in L.A. and they will go to fulfill whatever destiny they must fulfill. It's an illusion of some sort, but real none the less.

oh and I just looked up the definition of Dharma from wikipedia.com, check this out:

"Dharma (Sanskrit धर्म) or Dhamma (Pāli) means Natural Law or Reality, and with respect to its significance for spirituality and religion might be considered the Way of the Higher Truths. Dharma forms the basis for philosophies, beliefs and practices originating in India. The oldest of these, widely known as Hinduism, is Sanatana Dharma or Eternal Dharma. Ayyavazhi, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism also retain the centrality of Dharma. In these traditions, beings that live in harmony with Dharma proceed more quickly towards Moksha, Dharma Yukam, Nirvana, or personal liberation. Dharma also refers to the teachings and doctrines of the various founders of the traditions, such as Gautama Buddha in Buddhism and Mahavira in Jainism. As the religious and moral doctrine of the rights and duties of each individual, Dharma can refer generally to religious duty, and also mean social order, right"

I think this really proves that there is some attempt to create a perfect human society on the island. And its up to us to interpret this 'duty' or 'reality' for our own righteousness.

My friend had a theory that Michael might actually know of Walt's psychic powers which might explain why he is so protective of him from the 'others'

K here is one of my theories. Its all in their head. I think they are in like an induced coma, but through magnetic fields their thoughts are connected together. the guys like dezmond are able to come in and then leave this coma like state. the purpose of this coma is to try and find a cure for all mental problems. and when they finally get control of their problems throught the help of everyone they die ( or are woken up from the coma) ................ oh and the black mist thing is only smoke from the torches of the others. it moves with the wind which gives u the appearence of it being alive.

james erwin but how could the smoke be smoke from the others torches when it can throw shrubbery in the air pick up people or drag them (locke, last episode of the first series) or blow up engines (episode 1 - pilot)

The others use the smoke as a cover for them to do that stuff. its not hard to make smoke that thick.

maybe they were lost before they came on the island and are fact finding themselves on the island

It is simple...sort of!.. The island is situated off africa....the HANSO FOUNDATION(www.thehansofoundation.org) has found an island which has a great electromagnetic field emerging from it (hence how the plane was attracted to the island). This island also has great 'healing energy' which heals roses cancer and lockes legs....the island is a psycological study area...set up by the dharma initiative to make a study of humans, animals and environment in a certain environment. The 'others' are fakes who wear costumes and use a boat to get to the island every now and again..so basically, there are the survivors and some dharma initiative blokes on the island...i dunno how it ends but cant wait!!!

my thoughts;

Firstly i have to to say that the world nowadays is not a very big place, I say with confidence that there is no land mass that has yet been unchartered. seriously the whole desert island thing is old hat, there are no island unknown to human kind, and also with the flight traffic increasing, not just in commercial, but cargo and miltary, topped with cargo being regularly shipped by boat, you would find it hard to find an island that large that does not have any human contact. so this leads me to believe that it is some sort of halusination/spirtual journey, but my mind keeps coming back to those crazy numbers, and it makes me think of chaos theory. a multitude of variables and equations within equations. Non-linear: the equation cannot be solved like your program code. Dynamic: ever-changing, depending upon perspective. everything that happens on that island and indeed to the people before they crashed has something to do with the chaos theory and the numbers, as someone on this site has mentioned before me they add up to something...just my thoughts love to hear what anyone has to say.

Chaos theory is interesting, but I don't think it is coz of that.

Has anyone else thought that they may not been still on earth? This would also tie in with the theory above. Although I think everything seen is actually really there excpet for the dream sequences.

In the second series the other surviors of the plane were brought in as new characters. I think that series three will bring in the "others" and give more information on them.

Am I right in saying that the "others" have not actually killed anyone yet?

I reckon there are two sets of others: good - which are trying to cure the virus and bad - ones that have the virus.

Anyone agree?

the others are the people from the other side of the plain.

ITS ME AGAIN THE EVIL MONSTER SHADOW THING IS A SECURITY SYSTEM TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND.THE OTHERS ARE THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLAIN.THE MAN IN HURLYS STORY WHO KEPT SAYING THE NUMBERS EXCAPED FROM THE ISLAND.THE ISLAND WAS USED TO MONITURE SICK PEOPLE THATS WHY ON THE 1ST EPISODE ON SEASON 2 THE MAN IN THE HATCH ASKED IF THEY WHERE ILL AND HE IS WAITING FOR A REPLACEMENT THATS WHY HE ASKED LOCKE ARE YOU HIM.

42 is the number of Main Section Survivors.
Baby Aaron was born, Boone died. 42+1-1=42

23 Tail section survivors.
Cut down to 4 that made it to the main camp.
Walt got kidnapped and Shannon was killed.
Later on Ana Lucia and Libby die
42 + 4 - 4 = 42

Seems like the island wants to stay at 42 and those numbers involved.^^^
Also th magnetic inside the Hatch pulled the planes towards the island and Desmonds boat.

I am pretty sure that the survivors are in another world becuase every character seems to metion another world (Dezmond: see u in another world and other examples that i forgot)

its me again again the others are not the people on the over side of the plain sory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the whole number of survivers in the main part of the plane is interesting, twenty three people is all that is needed to build a colony of sorts. 16 female, 7 males is the exact number you would need to procreate, thus insuring that the genes are spread wide enough(inbreeding=bad) im for the the idea that some government project has been enabled to ensure the survival of the human race, this theory is still foggy and needs work but hopefully some else will use this info ;)

"what is the meaning of Life?"
"42"

Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy - by Douglas Adams

For those of you interested in finding the foundations of plots, storylines, seads etc of thought, the Ron L. Hubbard stuff is great place to start. Like the da vinci mania though, try looking at some older texts. I see some of you mention Gilgemesh. Check out http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/ for the old storey/poem of Gilgemesh. Interesting fixations with trust and strange goings-on....

Personally, i think it is all a test meant to represent the idea that given the time, humans will inherently kill themselves, and wipe out their own race. Maybe this is the writers idea of what will happen to our world with wars and such, and is representing it on a smaller scale.

I think the others got fished out of the sea by a giganto fish hook. Then they got bitten by sharks and turned into Supermans. Walt is just a kid and he doesn't have any superpowers and the polarbear and stuff waz just aa cowincadence. The monster is just an evil raincloud that got kicked out of da sky because the other clouds thought it was to evil and now it haunts the island waiting for someone to free it back into the sky. The plane crashed because planes sometimes crash and not because some random magnetic force. Sawyer is evil and killed an innocent tree frog when Hurley wanted to take it to mrs tree frog. John locke hates Charlie and wants his drugs because whenever charlie is taking them Jhon Locke always comes. Like at the bees nest and when Charlie wanted to get the drugs in his secret stash also locke wanted charlie to stop taking drugs so he could get them. Oh yeah the others are just the people who live on the island and own a secret hotel and a secret town and it's called the other peoples island. the others capture the good people because they want to show them there town. They want to save the people from the evil people the evil people are the people they have killed.

P.S Harry Toughty i dont love you so shut up.

i have the perfect lost theory...

the whole island is a research facility. the island is built to test how people will react mentally when certain things happen.

somehow the plane crash was controlled. the people were seperated into two groups for testing. one group (the people from the tail section) are picked on and taken one-by-one whereas the others are left alone

here are the pycological tests:

season 1
- the plane crash -seeing how people would cope after a plane crash on a island with limited food and water. (to see if they would just sit, and hope for rescue or go and look for food)

- rousou - how people will react to the introduction of a person who has been on the island before them

season 2

- the discovery of a hatch - how people's psyche would cope with the thought that they are on something that has had a previous use and is man-made

- the button - to see if people will press a button if they think their life depends on it, even though it is irational that a button could kill you

- the discovery of the main hatch with all the tv's in it - this is to see how people will react when they realise they have been studied.

- in episode 22 michaels blackmale - to see if a person would sacrefice their freinds for someone they have an emotional attachment to.

however

in the orientation video in the hatch with all the tvs it says '5 of 6 orientation' if it is the main one why is it not '6 of 6'

the others are people watching them - walt suggests in episode 22

there are many more examples that i forget but this is the main drift. i cannot see any main loop-holes (except the whole controled plane crash) - please inform me if you can

another thing the righting on the wall in ultra violet sensative pen - here is a link where someone has typed out what is written so u can see it easily

http://dnorton.wordpress.com/2006/03/31/lost-map-say-whaaa/

- very very good

Land
Of
Scientific
Testing

Maybe???

The world is an a post apocalyptic state. All of the survivor's are specificaly picked to continue the human race.. A Doctor, A priest, A cop. And so on. The plane never crashed. The scientists of hanso corp. made everyone believe they crashed and placed them and debris in strategic places throughout the island. If the codes are not pressed a satelite blasts the hatch with electro magnetic rays. and they start over again. It all has to do with magnetism. There you have it,
The End

The world is an a post apocalyptic state. All of the survivor's are specificaly picked to continue the human race.. A Doctor, A priest, A cop. And so on. The plane never crashed. The scientists of hanso corp. made everyone believe they crashed and placed them and debris in strategic places throughout the island. If the codes are not pressed a satelite blasts the hatch with electro magnetic rays. and they start over again. It all has to do with magnetism. There you have it,
The End

all i can say is WTF, and theres no way Im going to be able to wait all summer to see the rest of this

well...wow did any one actually just get that season finally???If you did please explain.

I have an idea!

The lost is really the lost city of Atlantis or at least an off-shoot of it. The cataclysm that had destroyed Atlantis only left traces of the civilization.

Somewhere as people have mentioned before it is in the Bermuda triangle. The Island has healing properties thanks to a magnetic sheild of old Atlantic engineering. Also when the timer goes down there are hieroglyphs. Associate that with the trade of ancient Minoan etc (egyptian culture).

At some point a government (french , US) had found this island. (more than likely during the Cold War era) They sent a first crew of people to study and research it, (the others) however due to unforeseen events getting back into the Island is only possible when the counter in the hatch is not supervised. In order to research lost technology that is un-explainable they need to continue breeding with out having any inbreeding occur. Such is why the "good" people are taken.

I dunno! I have more but for now I'm rambling.

Just an idea that flashed through my mind while watching Season Finale!

ok. when it flashes back to desmond at the track and his girlfriend penny shows up, desmond asks her how she found him. she replies by saying " if you have the money and the determination you can find anyone." then at the end of the show we see two guys in a trailer of some sort and its snowing. they are playing chess when a red light starts blinking. on the screen it says ELECTROMAGNETIC ANOMALY FOUND. the two guys start to panic and call someone on the phone. desmonds girlfriend picks up the phone. the two guys say that they have found it. i beleive that there may be a teleport from the snow to the island or something of the sort. that would explain the polar bear.

it seems fairly clear that if you were to set a heading on a compass and sail away from the island the only reason that you would not be able to reverse your heading and come back is if the the island is blocked by an electromagnetic shield. perhaps if the code is not entered the shield emmiter builds up too much force and it has to discharge (EMP perhaps). The light in the sky when the code was not entered could be remanants of the EMP as it hit the clouds and slowed the frequency of electromagnetic radiation down to the visible spectrum (eg. Infrared-ultravilot, instead of up in the microwave-gamma ray end of the electromagnetic spectrum). however it is still unclear to me whether or not desmond turned the key before the time ran out and also why would and electromagnetic pulse make such a weird noise (or did the writers put the noise in foolishly just to make it look better)

I still think the Purgatory theory is the best one so far for these reasons:-

1. The survivors were convinced that everyone in the tail was dead.
2. The Swan operation is a test of faith. i.e. Do you believe it's the end of the world if you don't press the button.
3. The 'others' are ghosts. Whatever caused them to die has prevented anyone from finding their bodies.
4. The survivors disappear when their bodies are found.
5. Hurley doesn't get any slimmer even though he is eating less.

I'm sure thaqt there are better arguments to prove the purgatory theory, but I'm still convinced from my first point about the tail section.

Hi I think the others are carriers of a disease as Rosseau said "they were carriers" and this disease killed her team. I think this disease was an experiment that made people strong (Ethans ability to pick up a man and pregnant women) I think this disease can only be given to children thats why they need Walt etc. Thats also why Rosseau's team died because they weren't children and why her child was taken. In the video in the hatch it says they did psychology experiments and they could of done other things the video also says there was an incident and thats why the button has to be pressed. Maybe the others had experiments done on them and escaped and the button activates the monster to track them down.

My theories on the monster are that its another experiment nanobots(micro machines). This explains everything why it could be disperse if it was one big thing it couldn't do that. Also the sound first its a machine sound then another sound that I recons sounds like a recording. Also its ability to pick up objects as its a machine and machines are strong.

Finally the island is Off shore of Korea. This will sound strange but in England I was watching Lost and it showed the video in the hatch then in the adverts an advert showed tonnes of things out of the video. Then a phone number came up I called it and it said an OFF SHORE KOREAN PROJECT. I know this sounds weird but I'm not lying. If you don't believe me type in hanso foudation on google and look at the wikepidia result and its connected to Lost also check the web site www.hansofoundation.org.
Namasday

The website is "www.thehansofoundation.org". Are they for real?

Nil actum reputa si quid superest agendum - Don't consider that anything has been done if anything is left to be done. Thats what the quote in the center of the map that was on the back of the door that lock saw. Strange,io wonder what this means....any ideas??

Uhhh,Korea? Have you ever been anywhere near Korea? Then you must know that huge jungles and deserts do not reside on the same island. It's coastal rocky land, not strange electromagnetic psycho places. It's too confusing to tell what the writers are thinking, but I'm just going to see how it ends.

maybe there is no island? all the survivours seem to have some emotional problems. maybe this is all an experiment into psychological behaviour. maybe they are all undergoing some kind of unconcious psychotherapy. this would explain lockes ability to walk. the guy in the hatch maybe the experiments administrator. now he's disappeared who is there to oversee the experiment? just a thought that's all.

lost is boring.p.s i am an idiot.

thehansofoundation.org is a good clue to what is/may be going on in Lost, however it isn't completely real. Everyone should watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2187395164361956437&q=dharma. This is a really good, quick video, but if you actually pause and read what each station does, the mystery of the show can slowly be unraveled. Each of these stations have a series of initiatives. Station 3, or better known as the hatch, is called the "Swan," and their initiative is to study physics and electromagnetics. Obviously the main characters aren't doing much electromagnetic research, but they are finding out what this station is for none the less. With the 2nd season over, we've found out a number of things. The episode showing what happened to Michael when he went for Walt has a lot of information. The 'others' seemed to live in canvas tents and what not, but the lady who was interogating Michael asked a number of questions about Walt. She asked him if there was anything unusual about Walt, and if he's ever appeared in two places at once. This hit me, because in the video, Station 2 (Parapsychological Study) one of the initiatives is, "bilocation and remote viewing." According to Webster.com, Bilocation is defined as, "the state of being or ability to be in two places at the same time." This has led me to believe that the 'others' we've come to learn most about, are associated with Station 2 and are/were studying parapsychological phenomena, or so we think. They are putting on an act with the ragged clothing to conceal their true motives. Walt also verified this by saying, "they do experiements," and "none of this is real (referring to the tents and tribal lifestyle)."

I think the others we learned about with the tail section of the plane are a different group of people, different others. They must have another station, and different motives. They've acted nothing like the others with the main group. All of these stations explain the really unusual stuff that happens, like the polar bear for example. There is a station called, "Zoological Sciences," (Station 4) and one of their initiatives is, "Species allocation and conservation." How else would you explain a polar bear on a tropical island? Other things like the black smoke are too out of the ordinary to explain just yet, but I do believe it has something to do with these stations.

The point I was getting to, is that all of these studies, experiements, and research come back to the Dhrama Initiative and the Hanso Foundation. If you go to thehansofoundation.org, you quickly realize that their main goal is to, "stand at the vangard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race."
From this, I think the Dhrama Initiative was set up to create a truly perfect society. But as we all know, no such thing can exist. Therefore, the people invovled in the studies became convinced that their own way was the best way to a perfect society. So each Station, I believe, has a set of 'others' who are continuously living out what they seek to be a perfect society, with their implications being orginally from the Dharma corroporation. Perhaps even the experimenters (the others) have become the experiment, with an even greater force observing them. None the less, it seems that the group of people we are following around are unquie. I believe they will be the ones who liberate the island, and rid the evil doing of creating a so-called perfect society. Yet all of this is just speculation, but the writers are obviously trying to prove a point. I think that point is a metaphor to what is happening in today's world, and what could end up happening.

The island is real, the crash was real (90% sure anyways), each person on that plane was selected to be there one way or another. The connection is the Hanso Foundation. Sun's father, Lockes father, Desmonds girlfriends father, they are all connected to the Hanso Foundation. Part of the experiments that are going on in the Companies connected to the Hanso Foundation, are examples of what is happening on the island. Prolonging life, eliminating cancer. Actually, Hugh McIntyre, who works for the Hanso Foundation, has been acused of deliberatly causing Cancer. Hmmmm!!!!

I think this is an elaborate Top Secret experiment that is going on. I have even had the thought that the entire Island is an elaborate maze and the survivors of the plane crash are the lab rats. All of the "Stations" are a hoax. They were set up to place real people in terrifying situation to see how they would respond.

Just a thought!!

Yeah, the stations could very well be a hoax. Their original purpose is still very unclear. I'd like to think that the stations were merely an illusion, or something that went terribly wrong.

Does anyone think they killed off Locke, Mr. Eko and Desmond? I think they're still alive. Shaken, but alive. My friends argue that the big piece of the hatch proves that there was a huge explosion, killing them all, but I think since it was a release of magnetic energy, the hatch door was blown upward by the magnetic force, and that they're still alive. No way would the writers kill off Locke and especially Eko so quickly. Those two are always about destiny and being tested with faith and all that stuff, they're totally alive.

lost is based on this book..................The Children of the Law of One and the lost teachings of atlantis

I was wondering if anyone noticed this weirdness:
when Locke and 'Henry Gale' was alone in the hatch and the blast door hit Locke and he sent 'Henry' to push the button. Henry later said to Locke that he didn't enter the code and didn't push the button. Well obviously he did and he was lying. But why?
He wanted Lock to lose his faith and stop pushing the button?
In the final episode 'Henry' turned out to be the boss of the Others, so he must know a lot. He wanted Locke to stop the electromagnetic game?

When Henry told Locke that "HE" did not press the button, he may have been telling the truth. As we found out at the end of Season 2 from Desmond, you need to play with the wires to get the blast doors to come down. How do we know that this was not all a set up to play another psychological game with them. Maybe there was someone else in the room that caused the doors to come down. They obviously wanted Locke to see the map on the back of the door.

Just a thought!!!

I'm liking the atlantis theory. With the electromagnetic activity, plane crash, balloon crash, boat wrecks, and not being able to leave. Another thing that supports this is the fact that when Jin, Sun, and Sihyd are on the sailboat heading to the north side of the island (where the others are) they pass a huge stone foot with four toes that is part of a giant statue. I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned anything about this giant stone foot.

Stories of Atlantis. Why do they exist and where do they come from? Why are they so persistent? And why is the subject of Atlantis so fascinating to so many people? Many scholars now cite archeological evidence of ancient civilizations that were destroyed by a great catastrophe, which they believe could be the source of the stories. But that raises even more intriguing questions, if Atlantis was once a great civilization, who were the people of Atlantis, and what were they like?

Within the recorded history of many cultures, there are references to the great island continent of Atlantis, and its highly sophisticated civilization. Some people still dismiss this as myth. However, many of these cultures had no known contact or knowledge of each other’s civilizations, so why would such diverse ancient peoples, such as the Maya, the Egyptians, the Hopis, or the Greeks, have the same legends? The collosus of rodes a greek myth.

Plato, a highly respected Greek philosopher and teacher, gives a detailed, non-fiction account of Atlantis. Due to that and other factors, many scientists no longer argue about the existence of Atlantis - just the whereabouts. Even marine scientist and explorer, Jacques Cousteau, searched for underwater archeological evidence of Atlantis.It ended with his son believing Atlantis was probably in the Caribbean or Atlantic, and Jacques believing it was in the Mediterranean. Even though they both found what they believed to be evidence of an ancient sunken civilization, neither had definitive proof that they’d discovered the remains of Atlantis. Atlantis allegedly sunk long, long ago, in an unknown location, and was totally devastated by unimaginable natural catastrophe. A disaster so great, that it may have had a “ripple” effect around the world, which brings us to the legends of “the great flood”.
Cultures the world over, who don’t have a specific legend of Atlantis, still have stories of a great flood that destroyed most life, (which happen to be very similar to the story of the sinking, and flooding of Atlantis). Descriptions of the destruction of Atlantis, say it involved great earthquakes and volcanic upheavals, and the actual sinking of the entire land mass. So perhaps some legends of a great flood could have come from secondary flooding, that resulted from unimaginably gigantic tsunami waves generated by an event that was the greatest geological disaster in history (like the one most scientists say caused the extinction of the dinosaurs).
Such waves could have swept the globe, flooding many, if not most, parts of the world, and eruptions could have darkened the sky, and created other disastrous ecological consequences. . Some legends, like those of the Hopi tribe, describe the Hopi as such refugees. They depict the Hopi escaping the calamity, and coming to their new land on “Giant flying tortoise shells”. It is said that once they arrived, they were led to safety from an environment gone mad, by a bird headed “Kachina” who guided them to underground passages.

To the open mind who researches this subject, the evidence that Atlantis did indeed exist, is overwhelming. But if Atlantis, as Plato described it, was a highly advanced, sophisticated civilization, with technology that even surpasses that which we have now, shouldn’t there be some other remnant of their society? According to the legends, Atlantis was so thoroughly destroyed by natural catastrophe, that there was nothing left. Yet, couldn’t there have been some Atlanteans with enough foresight to leave beforehand, and escape the disaster? Or some that were traveling in other parts of the world at the time? It seems quite possible that, given the stories of how advanced and sophisticated a civilization it was, that at least some traders or travelers were elsewhere in the world at the time. Some theories say the mythological inhabitants of Mt. Olympus, the gods of Greek and Roman mythology, were actually survivors of Atlantis.

Note: This is not in the book but in the television show " Stargate ", they recently indicated that the lost city of the ancients was Atlantis and on Earth. It is closer to the truth than many think. Back to our story.

Now just consider this amazing possibility - what if groups of Atlanteans, not only survived, but established communities in various places. What if they continued to pass on their heritage, their history, philosophy, and religion, even to this day? Such people could teach us so much, and fill us in on this great missing piece of human history. .if your on a list your good....sory if this is a bit rushed.im at work .lol

I am liking the Atlantis idea. very interesting post, probs best idea yet. but what if say a corporation/ rich group/ sect etc. invested in lost (or advanced) technology to the point of bieng able to follow up an old civilisations ideas/philosophy? Or what if Atlantis never sunk in the first place? If it has been there all along and oceanic flight just bumbled over it?

thanks adz. i apreciate your interest.alot of research needs to be done with atlantis.some post above mine mentioned a cross word someone was doin, and the word that was used ment flood. the great flood with moses or something.atlantis was floded and destroyed. the big broken foot!!!!(dosnt mean it sank)and i seem to remember the beach being floded in season 1.the island is probably prown to floding!!!!.....Even more interesting someone mentioned platos cave analogy on wikpedia.i had a read and im convinced we are getting close to what the hell is going on in the writers heads.plato has writen so much stuff.he likes to mention the sun god shadows good and bad alot....... plato wrote alot of books. has anyone noticed them beening read or even books based on his works?

just thought id mention. plato's analogy of the cave could be linked to the cave in lost. i cant read up on all of platos stuff but im sure there are more links to the show with his work.

so the 'others' are maybe the (plato) philosophers who know the real truth about the 'forms' of the world (in this case the island), and the 'losties' are simply viewing the world around them as 'shadows in a cave'? they are not 'seeing' the whole truth behind the 'objects' they see or appear to them. Maybe the others take the children because they can educate them about the philosophy of form (the way we interperate the world) before their minds become full of shadows of mere 'objects'. doesnt the Hanso foundation push a certain kind of philosophy of life? Plato...Atlantis...gee's guys we are getting heavey:)

The code is 4 8 15 16 23 42 they add up to 108 and also the beeping starts when its 4 minutes to go so I'm guessing in the process it activates after 42 minutes something happens then 23 etc.

I also think there are 2 groups of others but I don't have much evidence. But the others are different all the time first there mysterious whispers then there tramps like the ones on the boat. then there a sort of tribe then there intelligent people eg as they infiltrate them. my second piece of evidence is the black smoke why the hell would they tell you there coming so you could prepare ? I think not I think they were coordinating an attack because it would be hard to contact people in different ways like runners going across the island.

The atlantis theroy is somewhat of a good one. So is the comparison of Allegory of the Cave by Plato. Both of them do fit in quite well with the events on lost. But we must all realize, that although we've come to make sense with these stories being the foundation of lost, the writers are light years ahead of all of these theroies. They are all too obvious, simple, and well known. Perhaps the symbolism invovled in these theories provide a rational comprehension of the theme of lost, but for the big picture, I think we are looking at something much more complex. Anyone can interput the information given in Lost and rearrange it to blend with the Allegory, or the Atlantis myth, but to be truthful, we must all admit that we have no fucking clue what's actually going on. I've said stuff about the stations, and the many different others, but when we really boil down to it, these could all be an illusion.

As of right now, I think many of us have Lost figured out, including myself. But as we've seen, nothing on this show can be completly predicted. So right now, the best thing we can do, is think outside the box. Because frankly, we have no idea what these guys are going to do next. The next three months are going to be painstaking ones, but let us all reflect on our own rational thoughts, dwell in our bliss, and think we've got it figured out. Because in three months, our socks will be blown off anyways.

Some people didn't believe the island was near korea (a korean) but go on www.thehansofoundation.org and in the bottom right corner it says careers click on it and it says types of jobs and places and also a korean I said off shore korea not main land.

I think the monster/security system can change shape. It turned into Jacks' dad and Kates horse. That's why when Eko was confronting the monster it showed parts from Ekos' past inside it. Probably projecting his thoughts so it could turn into people or things of his past. Also 'spoiler fix' said that we had seen the monster this season but we didn't realise it!!!

Hell, no one has anything insightful to say! Who cares about the damn security system? Or where the island is? There are WAY bigger questions to be asked. Lets all put on our thinking caps and try to come up with some higher meaning here!

the security system theory is a good one

I dont know if anyone picked up on what was said by kelvin in episode 23 but he said that the guy in the hatch before him put a shotgun in his mouth and he pulled the trigger, and thats exactly wat the woman said to hurley in the episode "NUMBERS" where hurley is trying to find out why the bad things happen around him and he visits that women and he askes her how her husband stopped the bad things from happening and she replied "he put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger, could this person be the same person as kelvins former hatch mate. just a thought.

I donno if anyone worte this already (I didnt read through every single comment)but did any of you know that the man they caught said his name was "Henri Gale" which is the name of Dorothy's uncle in the wizard of Oz! Somehow she ended up in a place she didnt know how to leave ... maybe thats a connection??? What do you think?

oh and also I think the magnet has to do with the earths poles.

I believe there is some kind of virus on the island in season 1 Rosseau (french Chick)said the others must of been carriers and her team caught a virus and died then desmond said about are you infected and had a vaccine. Check this out http://dnorton.wordpress.com/2006/03/31/lost-map-s...
as it shows a map the Hanso foundation (Dharma) had different hatches and if you go on www.thehansofoundation.org your will see how they did experiments on how to improve humans and eliminate disease to eliminate disease you need it on the map one of the hatches is crossed out is that the incident? a virus escaped and has plaged people there. One weird thing is the bottles of vaccines that desmond had had the numbers on 4 8 15 16 23 42 weird huh ? so don't you think the button may have something to do with that maybe it makes a shield to stop the virus escaping ? I don't know but everything going on has to have something to do with this.

OMG watching episode 10 of series 2 where eko see the smoke. stopped the frame perfect to see an image of eko screaming with a body next to his head (maybe his brother). Very intriguing...his past or future?

again watched that bit again and saw a skeletal looking shape of someone (maybe eko's brother)...must contain some weird psychic ability the cloud. some stills would be nice of this scene.

that stuff about "he put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger" for ending the bad stuff is very interesting.

i know that a lot of people are thinking that eko locke and desmond might be dead because of the electromagnetic explosion thing in the season 2 finale, but say it did release a big burst of electromagnetic energy it would have only moved objects that are metal so it wouldnt have destroyed the hatch because it is made of concrete so i dont think they are dead, and the bit at the end where the hatch door comes soaring to the ground is just supposed to make us think they are.

I believe they are all in the mental hospital Hurley is in.The episode with Hurley and Dave explains alot.It also shows libby at the end in the hospital. I think the survivors are the patients (they all seem to have a good reason for being in the mental hospital). I think the "others" are the docotrs and nurses and that is why they are seen as evil. The children are taken away because they have to go to the children's ward. When there are flashbacks ths is them talking to the doctor about their past. When they die on the island-they have overcome their problems and leave the hospital.

thats not a bad theory S Doyle because jj abrams has said that there is a logical explanation to everything that happens in lost, but i just dont think that it would end with them in a mental hospital because people would feel cheated, they have been expecting some big conclusion to everything that has happened during lost and ending with them in a mental hospital just seems like a easy way to conclude lost and this also will mean that everything that has happened in lost hasnt actually happened at all, honestly though would you feel satisfied if it ended with them in a mental hospital.

I have a theory on the smokey security system, maybe its not there to protect the island but its job is to study the survivors and determine which ones would be suitable for which experiments i mean think about it lets say that when it appears it makes a racket and starts throwing trees everywhere perhaps thats just to scare the survivors and make them think it wants to hurt them when in fact it could study them, like in the episode wen it comes up to eko and stares at him for about 13 seconds, what was it doing just staring at him, i mean think about it the others obviously are making themselves look like a tribe to cover up there research maybe the smokey security system is doing the same.

Yes i agree Dominic Walsh. I would feel really let down and disgusted if it did end up that they were all in a mental hospital. I hope i am wrong! But you understand where my theory comes from? Either that or libby is not a shrink and was just in the mental home also.

S doyle just wondering but u do know that libby was also the person who gave desmond her husbands boat.in episode 23 of season 2

Just another comment i would like to put forward, in the finale episode of lost season 2 desmond says that he crashed the plane by not pressing the button in time which in turn released a large electromagnetic charge which pulled the plane off course and towards the island and if this is so then it will completely dismiss the whole theory that the survivors where brought there for a reason, but then again the others had a list of the survivors, i think with lost there is never a definete whole truthful answer as long as their is more episodes to go, i think the only episode we will be able to have any faith in the answers that we are given is the last ever episode.

'To summarize: our heroes never actually crashed; they are the future of mankind - the survivors of a cataclysmic polar event of which they are unaware; they are on the island to survive, procreate and repopulate the Earth. They are unaware of this plan which is sustained by a sophisticated collective consciousness and a group of scientists using electromagnetic power, and psychological techniques of reward and punishment.' (I got this from www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377 by the way) You really should check the site out, the answers to ALL of your questions will be there!

Reasons for the theory i put forward;
1. if you take a minute to think of who is actually on the island, there is a wide range of people from different cultures and country origin, this would ensure a wide range of genes for repopulation
2. the others talk of the survivors as being 'good' or 'bad' this would indicate that only the 'good' people are wanted for repopulation.
As i said before, PLEASE check out http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377
Abi xx

Hi, I've been reading you theories and have a theory of my own. I think that Libby has more to do with the island than was first suspected. I think that she had possibly been there before and had managed to escape. When she returned home with the story no one believed her causing her to have a mental breakdown which led to her being put into the mental asylum. I don't think that the "others" are the only others on the island and there are possibly more groups of people.
I do not think that Kelvin was killed when Desomd accidentally hurt him. I think that maybe he is now one of the others as the character who played him also appeared in the final episode of season 1 meaning that he could possibly have been on the boat who talk walt.

im sorry but just exactly at what point in the season one finale did kelvin appear.

i have a theory on the statue with four toes, it has either been put there to make the survivors think something else just like the others dress up like a tribe or it is the remains of an ancient civilization that has gone undiscovered because nobody can find the island because of the electromagnetism disrupting their radars and equipment. thats the best i can come up with although i have no theory on why it only has four toes perhaps dating back to a civilization that had not fully evolved and they only have four toes.

the toes are of an animal not a man. seems the theory of d.w. is close to most that we all think, good to have it written down. birng on series 3!!!

I think that it is a reality show, whenever someone dies they have been voted off the island. i think rose will be the last one and be voted off the island.....

your all lost!!!!! Except for that one guy, who knew where he was, he's not lost... but 99.99% of you are all lost.
mwahahahaha

4,8,15,16,23,42?
hmm so mne coincidences cant be normal.but pugatori is a bit far out there.al da theioris i com up wit r negatited by the healing of locke.

Why are there no maoris on the island?
we want them to claim the foreshore.

KING KONG SMASH

LOL

maybe according to the mental home theory, ms. klugh is also the woman who is Walt 's mother's lawyer in episode 2 of series 2 in Michael's flashbacks, she has come to visit Michael and is saying the same thing about not knowing Walt very well.

Dominic, I read on another website that the actor who played Kelvin in Live Together Die Alone, also appeared in the season 1 finale. If this is wrong I apologise.

its ok luke no need to apologise, its just when i saw your post i thought if he did appear then i would be pissed off that i didnt pick up on it.

The black rock is possibly the place where the others drew the line when they captured Kate as when Jack and Kate returned there, behind Jack was a black rock.

rumour has it that episode 2 of season 3 is called the last survivor and is based on somone who fell through the middle of the plane whilst on their seat and has a lot to do with the main story line and henry gale.

you could be right flo ive heard before that the survivors of the middle section of the plane would be introduced into the story or perhaps as you said only one survivor, but still this would sum up what did happen to the passengers of the middle section. and the part about him having something to do with henry gale, i would say very possible because we always see things like this in lost and they get sorted out or explained later on for e.g. the crashed drug smuggling plane or claires dissapearence with ethan.

something else i have been pondering about is when the other who posed as henry gale is asked "who are you people" by a survivor he always replies "we're the good guys" i can see this being something that is meant to just go over our heads but has real meaning, if it were true that the others intentions really are good it would be so ironic but not impossible, i mean why would he say it, also what about rosseau's daughter she is with the others and she doesnt seem to be held against her will could it be she has learned the truth about the others and is with them because they are good.

The thing is dominic walsh, that how could someone fall through from about thirty thousand feet and land safely. If they hit the ground then their definetly dead but if they hit water then... but loads of people survived the crash so their could be some kind of miracle theme going on. I also think that this is one massive Dharma experiment. The others aren't hurting the survivors but are trying to breed the good ones, maybe Charlie is such a freak that Ethan hanged him because he was useless for breeding.

i reckon the others are infertile from the incident, that is why they capture children, maybe the incident was a electromagnetic leak like seen in the season 2 finale but a lot bigger, henry gale was probably going to watch the survivors before kidnapping locke, why don't the others just kidnap the whole lot of survivors, it would be so much easier for them!

i was only speculating jackson i heard about the middle section survivor part from flo and like you said he could have survived by a miracle theme as u mentioned, i hope that flo's info is true because its always good when new characters are introduced i mean just take desmond for instance he is a brilliant character and has everything to do with the main story because he essentially crashed the plane.

i reckon cindy (the woman captured just out the main camp in the other 48 days) is important as the others did not try to capture her when they captured everyone else and she was the only flight attendant who we know survived

LBD, Walt had a flash back at the end of the first season

The electromagnetic incident's location is caused by the number of numbers that are completed into the machine in station 3. I think the station that clare was being held in was station 2 and went under an electromagnetic incident as everything had fallen over and the lights had blown up. I think this was caused when they were holding Henry Gale in station 3 and Locke didn't pout the numvers in quick enough. He put in '4,8,1' and was meant to put in 15 but he only managed to complete two numbers in so it hit station 2. In Desmond's flashback, he put in '4,8,15' but that was three complete numbers so it hit station 3(his station).

i like the garden of eaden theory, numbers biblical refrences? already ecko has said he found a...bible...sumwere that reminded him of something in the old testament, kate picking a fruit from the tree (forbidden fruit)? black rock..the boat thing, noahs ark? noah was lost sumwere he didnt kno? all the animals? aaron the baby...moses' brother named aaron? also desmond a religious figure in the old testament, exodus name of an episode?

please dont bite my head off if u dont agree though

just pointing out that in the episode of season 2 where Siyede anna and charlie find Henry's balloon. when siyede shows them the I.D card with the black guy on it his address id ... wait for it 815 walnut grove pl.
which we all know are 2 if the numbers :)

I really like cheese

and wldridge road is a real place and the woman who lived there is trying to sue lost!

the dog is not what it seems it is the devil

i have heard that the black smoke only goes for bad people so why did it try to take locke

if you look closely at the sharks fin in the episode where it trys to get sawyer and mike shoots it there is a dharma logo on it?

hate to break it to you sawyer but the dharma logo on the shark was noticed and posted a long time ago.

ok dominic anyway i found a website where it shows a map of lost when the hatch shuts down and i have read it all and whats it says there is a thing called a cerberus i think it is the black smoke cause it says that cererus is like god but send s you to the gateway to hell

in the final episode of s2.
when desmond turns the falesafe key what happens 2 him ,locke and eko

i want ur opinion

i think they blew up

in a press interview with the creators of lost it was stated that desmond would return in season 3 of lost so he must be alive but nothing was mentioned of what happened to locke or eko, it was also stated that the events happening from the outside world would play a big part in the story progressing on the island.

Question: Before his capture by Crazy French Chick, Henry Gale was planning to take Locke to the others (being on 'the list'). Why is it that the Others don't want locke anymore?

Locke wasn't one of the people who Micheal sold out. This shows that he's not on 'the list' anymore. What changed?

Oh, and one more thing: We've got the Smoke Monster, The Others, The 'Freaky Dreams/Hallucinations/Miracles' and The Dharma Initiative. So far there's no confirmation that any/all of these four things have a connection. Who thinks they're completely separate?

henry gale probably thought locke was actually a bad person or somethin when he was in the hatch, maybe there is an inside source and the others have another person in the survivor camp or somethin like that, we only know about 1/3 of them. i would bet good money on the others being previous participants in the dhamra initiative, who else are they and tom the other is played by the same actor as kelvin, connection? i think the smoke monster(cereberus) is linked with the numbers. locke's dad is more linked then we thought with the dharma initiative as he appears in that video about it if you go to google/video and type in dharma there is a video about the dharma initiative also another one for station 1(the fork) with some freaky kid narrating it and it explains what happens with the food parachute in lockedown. the others are probably good people.

forgive me for raining on your theory parade slash but the "other" called tom and kelvin in the hatch are not the same person at all, the name of the actor who plays kelvin is "clancy brown" and the actor who plays tom the other is "M.C. Gainey" and if u put both their names in google you will see that they are not the same person.

i cant wait for season 3 you will see the french womens story which i think will be the best

when is season 3 coming in usa?

october 6

is it just me or does desmond's wife's dad look like the guy who funded the dharma inisitive program in the orientation film (Series 2 Episode 3 - Orientation). Maybe thats why desmond ended up on the island so he wouldn't get back together with his wife, as when he came out of prison he wanted desmond to leave his daughter alone, he offered him cash to do so.
This could explain the ending of series 2 as desmonds wife found the island location. How would she know about the magnetic field of the island to find the island and know desmond was on the island? Probably by her dads fundings on the dharma inisitive program maybe?

i think that they are all dead and because of all the bad things they have done they are being tested to see if they can come back to life.

I have a theory, I think the Dharma Initiative company is based on the Island, I think they're still on the Island, On the Episode in Season 2 "Lockdown" When Locke see's the Map on the Blastdoor it says "KNOWN FINAL RESTING PLACE OF MAGNUS HANSO / BLACKROCK" Magnus Hanso was the founder of the Hanso foundation, which also funded the Dharma Initiative. Magnus Hanso was buried ON the Island, So there has to be some part of the "Hanso Foundation" or the "Dharma Initiative" based on the Island.. Or some connection between them..

well what i think is that the others are the dharma people i dont know but thats what i think what do you lot think

how many series are they filming does anyone know?

does anyone have any ideas as what that big statue of the foot is when jin and sun are sailing by i think it is some sort of god or leader.

i think it is 24 again joke

is it me or does the asion man in the dharma films,jins dad i think it could be.

i printed of this map of the island on and it says that on the 28 october 1984 there was a huge incodent and a shutdown.it also says - a location for zoological research facility that could explain the polorbears. it also says there wass a system failyure in 4.08.00. 8.15.01 01.06.05.which could be when they crashed

the numbers mean love to good people and hate to bad people

i was watching the last episode in season 2 and when there looking at those tubes of paper you can see the black smoke on the right side

crash date is mentioned in the final episode of series 2 when locke busts open the computer. Desmond regocnises the date as the same date as the system failure, from the bunches of printouts locke and eko found in the central observing place.
could the other failure dates mean more groups of survivors?

i think that all the people are there for a reason and have all got conections. hurlys numbers are cursed do you

Could it be emphasising the fact that we all attach different meanings to the same things (in this case the numbers)Have the numbers got so many different meanings (just as words like'and', 'come' 'pharmakon', etc.=see Derrida's writings)and we are all experiancing this scenario through watching of 'Lost'. What does 'lost' mean? does it mean the same to everyone watching? I bet not! Have menings of the word 'lost' been forgotton and are now not is common usage? Are we seeing these people as 'lost' when they are not really 'lost' at all? Think about the word, is all i am saying. Think about the way we attach meaning to things, how those meanings change though time and through experiance (watching the shows next episode, say). Sorry to get deep on this but its a great show and sets the mind thinking a lot about things. Good on the producers and writers for making a cool intelligent show. Keep up the good work if you are listening...

does anyone now what that giant foot statue could be when sayid,jin and sun are sailing by any ideas

maybe your right who knows and i have heard that the statue is nothing really they aint showing nothing about it in season 3

i think that the foot statue is a god that used to lead the island and plus there was only 4 toes on the foot thats weired

has anyone else noticed in that weired cloud thing that mr eko saw that there was pictures of his brother in it and people from his past.

one of my friend's in america's dad is an actor who plays an other and he says the others take loads of good people from the main camp one night

dont you think its weired how everyone keeps having dreams that come true like mr eko saw that there was a hatch near the plane and lock had a dream about mr ekos brothers plane crashing and it happend and also claire keeps having dreams about her baby.

i think they are n hell becaused they are all to do with bad things

i think it would totaly suk if the others wer just scientists or it was all sum big experiment.(experiment gone wrong maybe)

sorry sawyer

hey cockermouth is that in season3?

and whats up with 4 toe dude

Does anyone know if Michael and Walt get rescued or will they be back in series 3? Also I heard a rumour that Kate's dad turns up on the island!

Oh and at the end of an episode of Lost on channel 4, I think it was the first one of season 2, a kind of ad came up with a phone number for the Hanso foundation...i phoned it and got some creepy ansafone message i cant remember what it said though, and i got scared and hung up. did anyone else notice that?

quite alot of the people on the island didnt do bad things before the crash like claire, hurley, libby, sun, rose, bernard, locke and posibly cindy but she was a bit of a flirt

I THINK THA BLACK SMOKE IS A TYPE OF FAIRY (PER SAY) READING PEOPLE'S PAST (MEMORYS)AND GRANTING THEM THEIR SUB CONCIOUS WISHES. 4 INSTANCE WHEN IT READ KATE IT IT KNEW ABOUT THE THING WITH THE HORSE SO IT SENT A HORSE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WHEN THE SMOKE WAS READING MR EKO IT FOUND OUT ABOUT HIS BROTHER... SO IT SENS HIM A VISION WITH HIS BRO. TELLING HIM WHAT TO DO. ALSO CHARLIE'S HEROIN... THE SMUGGLERS PLANE AND HURLEY... HE SEES HIS IMAGINARY FREIND :)

well done 1/4 fresh thats one of the best theories on the black smoke i have heard. (this is not sarcastic).

dominic walsh goes on this too much

can i just say visit this great site on lost its very intresting www.channeL4.com/lost and then click on the untold then you can see secrets about everyone

shut up jinglebells dominic is cool :)

also i agree with that utopia dude about the scientist thing

Has anyone watched the latest episode of season 2?
The cliffhanger was immense! I'm starting to think the medicine Hurly was given is making up the island thing in his mind, but then Libby was in the same hospital as him at the very end and she was taking the same medicine.
I don't have any theories because i just want to watch them and find it all out. I'm so excited about next week now.

Has anyone watched the latest episode of season 2?
The cliffhanger was immense! I'm starting to think the medicine Hurly was given is making up the island thing in his mind, but then Libby was in the same hospital as him at the very end and she was taking the same medicine.
I don't have any theories because i just want to watch them and find it all out. I'm so excited about next week now.

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Hmmm... I guess everyone else noticed this too but it's weird when you add the numbers (4 8 15 16 23 42) that you get 108.. the same amount as the amount of time they have to put it in the computer..(108 minutes).. Plus, I think the Dharma labs are there for people to watch the others in the other lab. (People in one lab examine the people in the other while those watch the people in the third lab and so on..) And on the episode when the time ran out, the hieroglyphics showed up so it might mean that the labs were made long time ago..

has anyone seen the site http://www.apollocandy.com/ its the same chocolate bars that Hurley finds in the hatch. have alook-see its a fun site. enjoy.

....and if you thought that was good, try these for interesting Hanso sites...
http://www.retrieversoftruth.com/
and
http://www.hansoadoptions.org/

spooky stuff. they have really put some effort into this whole myth of lost. all three sites look above board, read away, its a moment of truths...

its my birthday in 1 week

i just looked at this weired adoption site and it says tht hanso foundation do adopitions and it says they do tests on the kids before they are adopted and that where claire went to get her baby adopted

look at this map i found go to google and select images then type in map of lost and you will see maps of the island with top seccret info on it and also go into google vidoes and type in any of the hatches and you can see the infomation vidoe tape with this little boy in it he's explaining it instead of the asian man

it's my birthday in 3 weeks

isn't it a slight coincidence that those people who wer going to adopt claire's baby were told that claire wanted them to sing her kid that song about the star and then the thing in the staff station played the song, do they work for the dharma initiative? and claire's boyfriend suddenly changed his mind about keeping being living with her kid and his paintings are very similar to the painting on the hatch wall

when does series 3 start in the uk does anyone know

the dharma initiative is a series of hatches on the island,so we have at the moment three hatches,the swan:a luxury apartment but with a catch,the user needs medication,the empty one and the new hospital one,my theory is that the numbers are a lie.they are used to keep the two man team in that area so that they can't go wandering.the others are scientists which,although they didn't know it were being constantly watched by their superiors who were noting down their characters.But then the scientists started to die and the superiors abandoned the island,now leaving the rouge scientists to command the island.they explore all over eventually finding a dock and taking everything of working order from the second hatch.But their was one they were afraid to go in the swan. Quarantine which is written on the doore is meant to scare them.The scientist inside the swan has no idea that the leaders have left,so true to his word he stays their pressing that button over and over until one day he for gets to push the buttton and a plane just happens to fall outt of the sky a very unlikely coinicidence but noit impossible.This leads desmond to believe that the button is important and so that is what he tells jack and locke and then all hell breaks loose

happy birthday 1/4 fresh :)

HAS ANYONE NOTICED THAT ETHAN WHO TOOK CLAIRE COULD OR IS THE FOSTER PARANTS WHO WHERE TO TAKE CLAIRES BABY. HOW CAN THIS BY POSSIBLE?

thats quite interesting "steven", thats actually a good theory that could be possible. well done

ok first u guys are over anilizing this walt said the others arnt who they say they are and kate found a fake beard witch makes tom { the bearded guy} look like a hillbilly so they ovyosly arnt who they say they are theyre way smarter, more civilized, and goodwin said they took people who were good people. So my theory isthey separate the good people from the bad people to come live with them.

P.S. i hate michael for killing libby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.P.S. im only 12 and i know more than u. BURN!

im from england so have only got as far as the episode where micheal shoots ana and libby.
this is my theory, it still has gaps so please help complete it.
I think that the Dharma initiative is a US military operation (hence the army knife) that is creating super soldiers. This explains why Ethan and Henry Gale are so strong. It also explains why only children and strong men are being kidnapped as these can be turned into the best soldiers.
The polar bears/shark/smoke monster are all security measures to prevent anyone escaping the island.
The initiative capture possible subjects due to the electromagnetism. This would have messed up the plane, Rousseau's compass, Desmond's boat and also the compass of the real Henry Gale who was actually ballooning over the pacific.

Me again
Also the 'incident' could have been an attack by the soldiers after an experiment went wrong and the button ensures the security stays online.
Anyone else think Jack's dad is part of the initiative. Hes not dead cos the coffin was empty and Jack has actually seen him on the island.
The main thing i cant explain is the healing properties of the island.

I like the religious/fate ideas but i think these may be side issues and the organisation is the main issue.
Would appreciate any thoughts on my theory.

Question:

Was it ever said what Henry Gale's ACTUAL name is? It probably was and I just totally missed it.

Ur all sad!! X

can i just say how come roselinas (the french woman) daughter is so nice when she has been raised by the others?

The others hate Dharma. They have american accents one of the others that ana lucia killed had a US Army knife with them this could mean that they are the Army keeping an eye on Dharmas experiments on the island to make sure that they don't create anything that they could use against america. Also Kate is one of the others, i'm sure of it. In 'Hunting Party' she sets off after Jack and Locke and Sawyer and somehow she gets in front of them and is used as a hostage.
What is up with ack's tatoos they have to mean something?

LOST theory
Here is what happened. When they push the button every 108 min it keeps the world from blowing up. The numbers they push represent the valenzetti equation and give the exact time and date when the people of the world launch into nuclear war and kill them selves. By the way 4+8+15+16+23+42= 108. The reason they are there is because they all interlock w/ each other and to repopulate the world when it dies out. They will live through that incident because of the strong magnetic field that might block the radiation. The reason there are polar bears and stuff is because there was a nuclear explosion also known as the “incident”. The incident also killed many Dharma scientists except for the others, which were there before Desmond, pushing the button. They stopped because there “arrival” Desmond came. After about 540 days flight 815 came to do the work. I think when the Dharma initiative meant your replacements would arrive every 540 days they meant it. When they built the stations it was for research into the numbers to change the equation and make humanity live longer.

My wife and daughter are so into lost that its beyond my comprehension. I dont beleive there is a meaning to lost. Lost actually stands for linear obtuse sequential tremor which is an anomlie in the prime directive. People wake up...the writers of this show all have dropped acid and have no idea what is going to happen from day to day. Its modern art in written form and is far more existential than anything else..its meaning is what you want it to mean.Its only the mirror and what you behold is really you but you dont know it yet. There can be no meaning without a framework to contrast it against and that all lost is..its the frame and you paint the picture yourself. Enjoy the journey but dont get hung up on where its going or how it will get there. It cant have a destination beyond what you create.

I think they are all dead and in a place between heaven and Earth as this explains nearly everything. How come the island all has a part of them Hurley's numbers, Walt had a polar bear toy, Eko's plane, Charlie and the drugs. The island is all parts of there minds. The only way to escape is to except everything in your past (this explains why they have flashbacks). Everything on it is tests which they must complete to leave. When Michael was ask to betray his friends he did he is Judas. The monster went away because of his faith. The only thing i don't get is were Dharma fit in. The Others are either St Peters (as they are the "Good Guys!") they protect the gate to heaven or they are people who have died and are trying to escape.

My other theory is that its a research commune where they were doing research to save the world. The numbers are a time and date to when the world will end. The vaccine that desmond had is actually a virus. It is designed to kill a percentage of people. Think about it introduce a vaccine everyone takes it it kills a certain amount of people and less people means therre is less famine etc watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPCCcXarkc

Also I think rosseau was heading to the island if you watch the video it says only he and few other people knew where the island was i think her team was heading there and the Others gave them the vaccine(virus) and because there genetic makeup was in the percentage they died

Mark these words and remember them....it will not satisfy everyone with its ending...if it ever has an ending. One thing is required to put something together when its shattered,you need all the pieces. Its even harder when the pieces werent made to fit together as in lost. Its as if they had to many differnet writers and no one was on the same page. Be that as it may I say bravo to those who are hoping for some kind of answer and fulfillment,knock yourself out. I for one havent the time,the trust or the energy to devote to it. Reality is a wonderful thing and to me this flick has just gone over the edge. Are they dreaming...are they in purgatory ( no cause it doesnt exist), is it an experiment to avert nuclear war gone ary,is it a mind experiment in a lab run by dead heads pumping people full of LSD, is it a caused by a alien experiment,is it a bermuda triangle type scenario...who knows but better yet it doesnt matter. Maybe its just a bunch of writers sittng around with an unexpected hit on thier hands who have bedazzled us with all these peices of intrigue and now are trying to put it together. I will watch the ending whenever it happens...just so I can see if they pulled it off.

The island has to just be a research place. I think it was used by Dharma to research to build a human utopia. All the things they are researching helps people. The scientists on the island were researching stuff to improve humans and to find out if god is real. The company Windmore is the company connected to dharma that brings new people to the island and i think everyone is connected to that company. because how come this is a group of random people yet in there falshbacks you might see other surivors. the company widmore brought them there the pregnancy test was windmore i mean who would bring one of those onboard also in a flashback were lockes father talked about that money he wanted him to get you see him checking a house that says windmore also you see Sayids love that women.

I think that Lost represents the Human struggle between spiritual and physical existence. The island is a form of Purgatory, but not literally. The series seems to lean toward a more 'real' explanation for what is happening to the souls on the island. When the mind is pushed to its limits we can all react differently. Lost is a story about the experiences of living people struggling to survive on an island which seems to have a form of consciousness, is home to some unexplained phenomena, is a place where experiments on humans have been / are being conducted, and which is already inhabited. Is the island bad or good? Are the Others bad or good? These are important questions. The mind is as vast as the universe in which we live. I hope the writers of Lost will keep us thinking for as long as possible.

Land of Scientific Testing, thats wat Lost stands for. anyway, i would jus like to say tht at the last bit of lost series 2, when the two men in the artic are plyn chess, the number that appears on the computer screen is 7418880. this is when the man realises that there has been some kind of happening. if u multiply 4x8x15x16x23x42, u find the number tht appeared on the screen. weird..eh?

The black smoke goes for movement because when it went for the pilot in the first episode everyone was still except for the pilot. And for Eko when he stared straight into it, he never moved which is why the black smoke didn't go for him. And in the first season when they are going to the dynamite, Locke tells Hurley to stay still when Artz comes back running from the black smoke.

I just got into Lost about 2 weeks ago. Watched the first 2 seasons in 2 weeks. I am thinking there is some sort of alien intervention going on here. Maybe they're on another world. Maybe the "Others" are alien beings disguised as humans. I dunno, just a thought

Just watched the season three premiere. Just throwing this out there, but are the "others" actually the animals on the island? The former test subjects of Dharma scientists? It seems they have superior senses and somekind of super strength, such as say a polar bear would have. They are good at tracking and moving silently about the island as if hunting prey. Its as if they are animals masquerading as civilized humans on the island. Just a thought.

some of the theories on this are shocking!!! fucking hell. like this one.

"I don't think their ever was a crash! Maybe all these people are still on the plane!

Imagine this, Charlie leaves his seat to run to the toilet to take his drugs, once in their these drugs accidently find their way in to the planes air supply system, giving the remainder of the passengers "mind bending images!".

And as for "The Others", these are the people on the plane not affected by Charlies durgs!"

stupid cunt

hi there i have just read this magazine and it says that the others are the animals of the island and that they have a tribe leader who is one of the ancient greek gods. and the god is guarded bye a three heded dog

This is really sad to me but the obvious theory is that they are all still on the long plane ride. Maybe Charlie's drugs made it into the ventilation. Maybe various characters are reading books and dreaming. Where else but in dreams can all craziness happen. Think of it... all of the characters were out of each's past. Desmond was out of Jack's past experience. Consider how dreams often resolve issues and you see people that are dead as if they were alive. The end of the series will show them all waking up maybe due to some bad turbulence with a possible impending crash. Bottom line, all are still alive and just had very bizarre and long dreams on the long flight.

Does anyone know which Stephen King book the cute book club chick was holding when Henry came to her as the island was quaking?

i think that they are all dreaming - because when they crashed they might have been knoked out and are asleep just dreaming + i know what the hyroughlifs said when they did not press the numbers it said DEATH

How do you know the heiroglyphs said "death"?! Looked to me like it was a missle launch. Look at the progression left to right of the symbols and see if it doesn't look like a missle launch, then a missle trajectory, then missle flying like a bird.

What really has been on my mind is how the others have said numerous times that they are "the good guys". Good guys but they kill and kidnap? Good guys like prison guards? I think the big question is - what could the 'others' be doing that they think is so important that any terrible thing that they do to the castaways is justified in their minds???

it seems to me that "the others" have important work that has to be done on the island, i mean ethan killed "scott" or "steve" i cant remember which one lol just like the survivors, anyway ethan killed one of the survivors because he needed claire's baby for some reason, and goodwin killed that guy who was put in the hole by ana-lucia, because he couldnt risk the tail section survivors finding out he set him loose because he needed to earn their trust, it sems as though they only kill when it is neccesary, although it would be an ironic ending if "the others" where the good guys.

does anyone else think that the island can cure disiase -it cured locks legs and cured roses cancer.

to hurley version 2: yeah, the island seems to have an efect on curing illness or disabilitating conditions. Could be to do with the electromagnetic field of the island. some research suggests that electromagnets could have curable effects, but as yet no one really understands it. Its too problematic and too random to control. But if someone where to harness the properties of electromagetisism its use could be limitless and offer new typoes of oppertunities for scientific discovery. As things stand, we can explain what a magnet does, how it works, how to turen them off and on using electricity, but we as yet dont know the full story... ~Maybe some one like the Hanso Foundation has had some breakthrough? Basically, I agree with your point. Bring on series 3!!!

hey adz thanks for agreeing with me i cant wait for the next episodes to

hey im lovin lost at de moment does anyone know any secrets coming up in series 3

has anyone noticed

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this might just be a cowincedence

earlier theories suggested that ethan had superhuman strengh and speed, that could be said about goodwin yet they were killed, i mean think about it on the season 3 premiere "benjamin linus" had to think fast so he sent two people in to spy on each of the survivor groups but he specifically chose ethan and goodwin, so perhaps they are the most qualified for this task and probably the most physically fit, it would make sense because "benjamin linus" seems to be able to make quick decisions (a good stratgist)

does anyone no if lock and mr eko dead

i have seen the first 3 espisodes of season three the first episode is about the others and jack sawyer and kate where they are jack is in a underwater hatch called the hydra and sawyer and kate are in cages and on the second episode is about sayid sun and jin and the others want the ship there on and the third episode is about locke eko and desmond there all alive the hatch threw them out of the hatch the is now imploded and at the end it looks like locke is going to rescue jack sawyer and kate it is awesome i cant wait for next week for the next episode

just seen episode three that polor bear made me jump i spilt my cup of tea all down me

ha ha it made me jump to

Does anyone remember earlier that Ethan was in Austrailia trying to get the blonde's baby and she was given some prophesy about the baby being so important?
The only justification for killing may be to 'save the world' as a whole, but the others need the baby or harvest Kate's eggs to get fresh cells to create some vaccine.

does anyone else think that in series one when they crashed the man sitting next to jack is the leader guy henry and also you know that ship in series to does anyone know were they might think it came from i think it is just a prop to make the island look older then it is . also the others are just the us army who are trying to hide something they are doing

in series three episode 3 does anyone else think that desmond looked like JESUS (his clothes,hair,beard etc... plus he is prediciting the future, saying to hurley about locke's speech, which is an element that jesus could do. so i think that desmond is going to lead his friends away from the island. does anyone else think he looked like JESUS?????????????????????? also to back it up in lockes dream with boon desmond is the pilot which suggests that he is in control of things which pilots are of a plane.

oh wow, hurley version 2 i never noticed that about desmond, but your totally right. yea i think he might represend Jesus because there's no other explanation for his "prophecy"

Also after the hatch imploded, Charlie couldn't hear, Locke couldn't speak, and I'm guessing Eko can't talk. Remind anyone of the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil?

Sorry bout that above, i meant that maybe Eko couldn't see

i think - hurley version 2 your totally right this could explain lots GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- JESUS IS BORN ON DECEMBER 25TH MABYE THAT SOMETHING WILL HAPEN ON THAT DAY

-HE GOT CRUSIFIED SO MABYE DESMOND WILL DIE

- HE CAN HEAL PEOPLE SO MABYE DESMOND WILL HEAL THINGS.

P.S THANKS HURLEY VERSION 2 FOR SUGGESTING THE IDEA ABOUT JESUS.

HAPPY HALLAWEEN EVERYBODY P.S MY THEORY ON LOST IS THAT THEY ARE ALL UNCONCIOIS FROM THE CRASH AND THEY ARE ALL DREAMING...

Loving series 3!!!! good point re: Desmond. Though Jesus wasnt born on dec 25th (due to changes in calenders over the years it was probably sometime in september I think if memory serves).

You know the others keep harping on about an 'incident'? Well what if they were previously on the Losties island, something happened (the incident) which meant they had to relocate to the second smaller island?

They know the bigger Losties island has healing powers and they are all there studying it for the Hanso Foundation. Ben Linus has lived on the island all his life, their medical equipment is 'never used' says the blonde doctor chic.

Ben Linus was on the island trying to get better - the x-rays Jack saw of the tumor are maybe his. The smaller island may not have healing powers, but trips to the bigger island can help people recover. Which is why there are a few tents set up for when people need to visit. downside to the bigger island is that is sends people crazy or opens up parts of the brain that dont normally work - thus allowing paranormal happenings/ incresed strength?

also if desmond was sailing around the islad how come he never saw the smaller island?

and what on earth is the statue we saw the foot of?

Holy Moly!!! Incredibly thick the christian symbolism was in the episode of Ecko's death. Ecko rolled the stone away from his priest brother's plane tomb only to find him gone! Ecko follows the priest (Jesus) into a garden to which Jesus tells him why do you speak to me as if I am your brother? Then black smoke Satan/Death is allowed to kill Ecko by making the sign of the catholic cross with him as it slams him into trees, up in sky, down to the ground!!!! Previously Ecko stood up righteously to the black smoke and it retreated, this time Ecko was afraid and it got him.

does anyone else notice that the black smoke sortove reads peoples thoughts. with jack it took the shape of his dad and tried to scare him taking the form of his dad.same with locke,boon,and reacantly mr eko with his brother and the smoke acted although he was his brother and scared eko which is why he died.

i know intresting secrets

1- clones- do you remeber the guy in series 2 who got his neck broke by one of the others they never found his body mabye he was taken for cloning. also jacks dads body dissapered from the coffin.

2-sayid- do you remember when sayid was a torturer in iraq kevin inman(desmonds parter in the hatch was the guy teaching sayid)look back it is.....

3-hurley- also after a deck clappsed that hurley was standing on -it killed 4 people-this is why he became depressed.

is it true we have got to wait to february for the next episode (not fair)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow I have seen the first 6 episodes of season 3 and wow. i still can't belive Eko got killed by the monster but in that episode soemthing weird happened eko kept seeing his brother and his brother told he to go to confession later on in the episode Eko is on the island (its not a flashback) and is talking to his brother and Eko says he is proud of what he has done in life as he did it to survive but the thing he thought was his brother said don't talk to me like i'm your brother Eko.

Here is my theory on the monster. It is some kind of artificial god/judge and it can mimc people. Think of it the things with Eko seeing it and Locke and it not harming them the second time lock sees it and it attacks. Do you know in season 1 jack saw his dad and his body was gone well in the episode were eko dies he sees his brother and his brothers body is gone coincidence.

Also in that episode they use the Pearl station to see into another hatch and you see a computer and a man with an eye patch who looks like Kelvin how exciting is season 3 fianally wicked episodes all the time that give more info away.

I also like the eisode in which Desmond sees the future twice after the hatch explodes who talks to hurley about a speach that locke said but locke never says that speach until the end of the episode and he didn't say it before. Also he predicts some lightning and saves Clare, Charlie and Aarons life as he builds a lightning pole to stop them dying.

Snowglobe

The best theory I can think of is a snow globe. I think the island is a huge creation underneath the ice caps. This would explain the polar bear. it would also explain why when locke did not press the button the scottish dude's girlfriend got a phonecall from two men who appeared to be monitoring magnetism in the ice caps. Remembering that this girl's father is a very rich man, it is probable that he could have something to do with the snowglobe. I believe that the illusions are simply computer programmed to manipulate the people on the island. I also believe 'the others' are glorified prison officers. Ever wonder why as soon as hurley got rid of all the food more fell from the sky? theyre being watched....theyre in a huge experiment. Jack was not on 'the list' we heard one of the others say in epsiode 6, maybe this list was for criminals, and jack was merely lured onto the plane to complete the operation for Ben.

On the other hand I could be totally wrong! but thats my view on the whole thing! tell me what you think .....

Well, clearly it's an artificial place but I think it's more like a state of mind than an artificially created island underneath the ice caps. I think they all are lying down in a nice room and they are connected on a large computer or something like Total Recall's machine. That's why the new comer told them they are all dead.

Does anyone know if it is possible to find for sale on DVDs all the series from lost? I mean...something made so you can watch them home... I keep losing the episodes because of my schedule.
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Hello, are people commenting on LOST anymore. It's back on. Are you still watching? Everytime I watch I get more confused than ever. I have no theories anymore. What is going on with Kate and the baby? (Aaron)